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My brother just bought a 08 Fz1, finally have someone to ride with! We have been riding atleast 150 miles a day for 3 days! I like his bike alot, hes more for form over function, but its not a cookie cutter crotch rocket, first its naked, lookes pretty cool, and its for the most part an upright bike. HOWEVER, im sure you versys owners get the daily gas station question people wondering what exactly your riding, which is cool, but his ppor bike draws alot less attention. so weve raced and raced and raced and the versys will stomp the fz1 off the line, but hes got alot of top end power that i dont. And i finally got a chance to hit a top speed of 128 at which point i was passed, and it had a little more but the rpms were getting up there so i backed off, maybe a new sproket would give it more becasue the power is minimal at 9k and over, but, i dont plan on doing that often. as far as handling goes, the V takes the cake hands down. AS far as comfort goes, the FZ1 is terrible compaired to the V, but with a little help in seat padding and different handlebars, it would be comfortable too. So theres my write-up. The FZ1 is a good, powerfull bike with pros and cons like all and i do miss the smoothness of a 4 cylinder, but i wouldnt trade it for my versys!
 

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+1, He doesn't have good launch skills. The FZ1 will stomp the Versys at the top and the bottom.

The FZ1 has more torque and horsepower at its disposal, and it revs so fast, that it doesn't suffer coming off the line.
 

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Although in all fairness, I hear the second generation FZ1 has crappy low end power. It gets going on up into the rpm range but off the line its a let down.
 

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Although in all fairness, I hear the second generation FZ1 has crappy low end power. It gets going on up into the rpm range but off the line its a let down.

Could be, emissions, mapping, plugged up exhaust etc.

I had an 01 FZ1 geared WAY down, and jetted with an M4 pipe. It was insane scary fast. Off the line it was way way fast, and had much more on top vs the V as well. I think it was an easier bike to take off than the V due to the additional weight and longer wheel base. You can really launch hard on an FZ1 where the Versys will tend to want to wheelie.

I do like the Versys a lot though. I feel like I'm going to live a lot longer on the Versys. It's also more comfortable and handles great. Two very different bikes due to the huge difference in available power each one puts out.

Due to the way I had my FZ1 geared (Sprocket Specialists sent the wrong combo, and I was like F-it, I'll give it a go...), down one up front, plus three on the back, almost nothing on the street could hang off the line. :) I smoked my friends heavily modded 900RR so bad until about 70. A TL 1000R couldn't even come close to keeping up. It was a fun bike, but no regrets on selling it. It hurt my knees so bad and my legs often cramped up. The FZ1 = a sweet rush of acceleration anytime. Versys equals a nimble and fun that you can ride the piss out of all day long.


How's the saying go? It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow? ;)
 

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Although in all fairness, I hear the second generation FZ1 has crappy low end power. It gets going on up into the rpm range but off the line its a let down.
I frequently ride with an 03 and a 07 FZ1s, trust me, they are not down on power.
The FZ1 will launch better than the Versys, especially the newer models, they have a long wheelbase that efficiently gets power to the road.
 

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I have the best of both...a 2005 yamaha FZ1 and a 2008 Kawi Versys...yippee:)
You sir, have it made! :thumb:

I had a 919 I sold to get the Versys, I wanted to keep both but money was tight, and the thought of two insurance payments made me ill.

So far so good, the Versys is so much fun, I haven't missed the 919 yet.
 

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I frequently ride with an 03 and a 07 FZ1s, trust me, they are not down on power.
The FZ1 will launch better than the Versys, especially the newer models, they have a long wheelbase that efficiently gets power to the road.

Oh I know they are fast bikes. But while the original FZ1was a ripper, I have read several posts on the FZ1 board about poor acceleration on the 2nd generation 06 and 07 models. Owners are less than thrilled about the low end power out of the box. Guys over there are also swapping sprockets and doing other stuff to improve low end acceleration.

I know all this because I researched every bike on my "which one do I buy" list over and over. The FZ1 was defenitely on that list. But in the end the Versys won out. And I'm sure if ridden by an average rider the FZ1 would make minced meat of the V in pretty short order. But off the line, its entirely possible that with this bike the 2nd gen FZ1 would be playing catch up.
 

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Oh I know they are fast bikes. But while the original FZ1was a ripper, I have read several posts on the FZ1 board about poor acceleration on the 2nd generation 06 and 07 models. Owners are less than thrilled about the low end power out of the box. Guys over there are also swapping sprockets and doing other stuff to improve low end acceleration.

I know all this because I researched every bike on my "which one do I buy" list over and over. The FZ1 was defenitely on that list. But in the end the Versys won out. And I'm sure if ridden by an average rider the FZ1 would make minced meat of the V in pretty short order. But off the line, its entirely possible that with this bike the 2nd gen FZ1 would be playing catch up.
No it wouldn't. I have ridden them. Poor acceleration in the low RPM range is relative. The FZ1 revs up so fast, it would not matter. This is the way I-4s are ridden, high. People have been swapping sprockets on I-4s since their inception.
I've done off the line blasts, and roll ons against the new FZ1s just playing with my buddies. The FZ1 has more torque at its disposal, and its dominant HP comes into play quickly. The V is no match for an FZ in a speed competition.

People that are complaining about the FZ1s low end, are comparing it to other liter bikes, not a 650 twin.
 

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The way I remember my 01 Fizzer, at 4k rpm the fun starts. At 8K hold on tight. At 10k HOLY SH!T it was scary fast with a loud roar and arm yanking acceleration.... :) The FZ1 slides the rear around turns lofting the front wheel when "rolling on". The Versys is more of a precise scalpel in the curves. In a straight line the V hasn't got a chance, rider dependent of course. ;)
 

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After selling my 08 KLR650 I was thinking about getting a 08 FZ6 because of the kind of up right riding position and it did not look too much like crotch rocket. Well my friend just bought one and invited me to ride it and while it looks really cool I was not impressed by the power or shifting. It clanked hard into every gear and I did not feel that much more of a pull than my KLR!
Are you guys talking about the 650 FZ6? Sure didn't seem that powerful to me. The riding position was not all that great either, I am still convinced the 09 Versys is going to be my next bike. Sorry, I just edited this, I see now it was a FZ1 you guys are talking about not FZ6, so nevermind. I would like to hear someone compare the FZ6 and the Versys though.
 

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You might be thinking of the FZ6. The FZ1 probably has 3x the power at the rear wheel of a KLR 650. My old FZ1 shifted like a dream, let it break in and I bet the shifting will be more slick.
 
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