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What do ya think? I love my 2008 V in the twisties, but getting the itch for something with more legs. I'm all pavement. I'd sometimes like more power and something a bit better for 2up and good on highway but could really eat the milesng. Kind of have my eyes on a 2008 FJR. Thoughts?
 

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Big, fat, heavy, expensive, not as comfortable, not as fast, slow handling. I'm also considering an upgrade. I test rode a connie and I liked it more than the fjr. However, after test riding a couple of tourers I believe I will go the adventure tourer way. Test rode a tiger explorer a super tenere and a 1200 gs. In sold on the performance of the explorer and debating on the virtues and value of the tenere. I'm waiting for the season end manufacturer deals to make a decision. Who knows, maybe kawa decides to bring the V1K to the US.

After testing all bikes that were two to three times more expensive. I couldn't help noticed how good is the versys.

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Thanks for the input. I am torn on whether I want to give up my V.... since im not going to go offroad,i haven't really considered the big adventure bikes. The newer bikes, like tenere are definately out of my price range.
 

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Bigger bike is a bigger bike. Sounds dumb but it takes away part of the fun factor. Just the way it is.


Two up, hick yes, go big! Really big! :thumb:
 

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How would that bike be for touring , wind protection
And 2 up? Not sure on insurance either...
Not sure about your insurance costs, the bike is classed as a sports tourer and is a lot of fun in twisties but I need a airhawk for my butt on that bike, the screen has 3 settings and is adjusted by a lever, I am 5 '8 and find if I have screen on highest setting it is more noisy around helmet but less wind around neck/chest, i usually have it on lowest setting unless it is really cold or raining.

I do not do a lot of 2 ups but at 138 Hp it has more enough power and from memory only has about 16-18 degree forward lean angle for my height so is okay for long distance apart from the seat.
 

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Bigger version of the versys is the KTM 990 SMT. Awesome bike. Price is probably a factor though if the newer adv. tourers are out.
 

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The Kawa website indicates the Ninja 1000 ABS curb weight is 509lbs, and the wheelbase is 56.9 inches.

That's quite diff than the FJR, weighing 650 lbs and wheelbase of almost 62 inches.

I traded an 08 FJR in for my 2011 V. Can tell you the fjr is a lot of bike when moving it around. But it is of course a great touring bike. Has plenty of beef for pillion, camping gear etc etc.

The Ninja you'd have to buy side bags, but not the Fjr. Also, check some diff Insurance companies, they don't all classify bikes the same. I'd think the Ninja could be quite a bit more with some of them.
Looks like you traded the bike I'm looking at. I know it heavier etc... but how was the fjr in the twisties compared to the V? Am I giving up way too much fun factor for the comforts of the bigger bike?
 

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Smedy,

There is a lot of daylight between a Versys and the big sport tourers (>1.2 liters).
You might try something in the 800cc range. The smaller adventure tourers (800cc or so) could work for you. I rode a Versys for 4+ years and loved it. Then I wanted a bit more (having come from big sport tourers (BMW K1200GT, Triumph Trophy 1200). I am now riding a Triumph Tiger 800. A sweet motor with nice power. Not as tossible as the Versys, but still light and fun. The BMW F800GS is another option. -- Hank
 

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I've done a considerable amount of long-distance touring on a BMW R100RT and a BMW R1100RT. Both bikes were fantastic for covering miles with comfort while still allowing for a bit of spirited performance. I did, however, feel somewhat restricted by either bike's unsuitability for exploring places that were only accessible by dirt and gravel country roads.

After quite a bit of research I bought a used, low mileage '09 Versys and set it up with the typical equipment that is seen on this forum for ADV touring. Last year, I took it on a 6,733 mile journey from South Carolina to New Mexico, up through the Rockies to Montana, across South Dakota, and back home to Charleston.

Overall, the V exceeded my expectations for a mid-weight motorcycle. I was able to get into areas that I would normally have avoided on the much larger BMWs. While the V performed flawlessly...I was not pleased with the punishment I received from windy conditions across NM, TX, and SD. I also would never consider the V for two-up touring.

Regardless of our affection for the Versys, it must be remembered that it is a mid-weight motorcycle and (while it has its own merits) it can never replicate the attributes of sport touring or large ADV machines.
 

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Big, fat, heavy, expensive, not as comfortable, not as fast, slow handling. I'm also considering an upgrade. I test rode a connie and I liked it more than the fjr. However, after test riding a couple of tourers I believe I will go the adventure tourer way. Test rode a tiger explorer a super tenere and a 1200 gs. In sold on the performance of the explorer and debating on the virtues and value of the tenere. I'm waiting for the season end manufacturer deals to make a decision. Who knows, maybe kawa decides to bring the V1K to the US.

After testing all bikes that were two to three times more expensive. I couldn't help noticed how good is the versys.

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Versys 1000 will be available in the the US as 2013 model.
 

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Hmmmm....that Triumph does look very nice. Ergos would be closer to the V and I imagine its lighter than the ST's I've been eyeing. I Wonder how it does in touring mode and 2 up?

I have to admit I don't know much about Triumph as I've always had Jap and KTM. Don' t know about quality, service etc... Don't think there is a Triumph shop near me but that may not matter.

Guess i need to do some research and soul searching.
 

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Thanks for the input. I am torn on whether I want to give up my V.... since im not going to go offroad,i haven't really considered the big adventure bikes. The newer bikes, like tenere are definately out of my price range.
A well equiped Super Tenere is about the same price as the FJR. However is a new model so there is not much discounting or many used models out there.

The big adventure tourers with the exception of the KTM 990 are not purposely built off road bikes. They are large touring bikes that can go off road if needed. By off road I believe manufacturers mean dirt roads and dual tracks. Nothing to gnarly since I do not believe anyone will purposely ride a 575 plus pound bike in a single track trail. One spill and you will need two more buddies to get the bike upright again.

I checked the Tiger 800 and the 1050. Although more powerful than the Versys they do not offer much more comfort for two up than the Versys. I checked the Suzuki GSX 1250 FA. I believe that is the new nomenclature for the Bandit. Very nice ergos, more power and room than the Versys at a very nice price. It was a very tempting option until I decided against a sport tourer. I saw one with GIVI V35 as EOM bags under $12K new at a local dealership. It lasted like a week on the floor. I think it was some kind of promo from zuki.

Anyway. Think about very well and go a test ride a couple of bikes. My experience so far is that you have to pay a lot more to top the Versys. The Versys is a really good bike.

P.S. The Versys 1000 is not available in the US. If it was I would probably be riding one.
 

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The Kawa website indicates the Ninja 1000 ABS curb weight is 509lbs, and the wheelbase is 56.9 inches.

That's quite diff than the FJR, weighing 650 lbs and wheelbase of almost 62 inches.

I traded an 08 FJR in for my 2011 V. Can tell you the fjr is a lot of bike when moving it around. But it is of course a great touring bike. Has plenty of beef for pillion, camping gear etc etc.

The Ninja you'd have to buy side bags, but not the Fjr. Also, check some diff Insurance companies, they don't all classify bikes the same. I'd think the Ninja could be quite a bit more with some of them.
I rode the Ninja 1000. It's a hoot to ride. I admit that its more fun than even the Versys. Almost as flickable, very comfortable (one up) and twice the power. If it was not for my two up requirement I might have jump into one. The givi hard luggage set is about $1200.
 
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