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Laid it over, in a parking lot, in front of a bunch of nursing students.:mad:

I get out of medical terminology class and fire up the V to go home. I was probably going a bit too fast, but so was the truck that I was trying to avoid. I'm rolling up to a T in the parking lot that is lined with parked cars and am going to make a right to the exit to the road. I start to turn and a big, black chevy truck comes rolling up, going in the direction I was turning. I was NOT going that fast...maybe 3 or 4 mph. So, to avoid getting smacked by the truck, I slam on the brakes. I WOULD have stopped...upright, had my front tire not been smack in the middle of one of those packed down in a little dip, piles of gravel that looks JUST like the freakin' asphalt.

So, my wheel is already turned and the front wheel locks up *CRASH* down on my right side I go. I'm more embarrassed than anything at this point. The bike is still running. Right as I go to hit the kill switch, it dies. My foot is pinned under the rear passenger handle thing. The guy in the chevy stops and gets out and a herd of nursing students all rush over to see if I'm okay. One girl insisted she look at my knee. I scraped my knee and elbow kinda bad (I didn't have my riding jacket on :eek:), and the V has some paint missing now, but all I am is a bit sore.

GAR! That is the first time (outside of the motorcycle safety course) that I have laid a bike down. I'm grateful it wasn't at high speed or anything, but it shook me a little bit. I'm not certain if ABS would have prevented that, but I kinda think it would have. Honestly, I've had worse wrecks on my mountain bike, but as soon as finances allow, I'll probably be getting something with ABS.
 

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i'm glad you didn't suffer any serious injury. looking back, was there anything you could have done differently to avoid the spill? Who had the right of way when the truck was approaching?
 

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Laid it over, in a parking lot, in front of a bunch of nursing students.:mad:...I'm not certain if ABS would have prevented that, but I kinda think it would have. Honestly, I've had worse wrecks on my mountain bike, but as soon as finances allow, I'll probably be getting something with ABS.
Probably NOT! If you notice when you read about a bike w/ ABS, they'll mention whether or not you can turn the ABS off for riding dirt/ gravel. That's because the ABS CAN lock the wheels on loose surfaces....
 

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was there anything you could have done differently to avoid the spill?
I could have been going a little slower; however, if my wheel was in the same spot at a slower speed I still would have locked it up. Could have helped, but then again maybe not.

ABS CAN lock the wheels on loose surfaces....
Really? hmmm. I assume motorcycle ABS is similar to a cars? I'll have to look in to that.
 

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If you had not grabbed the front brake do you think you would have went down. A lot of guys just try to use way too much front brake.
 

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If you had not grabbed the front brake do you think you would have went down.
Possibly. I normally don't use much front brake at all, mostly engine braking. But the circumstances for this fall were just nuts. Another reason I went down is because once I hit the brakes, and my wheel locked up, that truck was still coming, so I instinctively turned the wheel harder to the right. I think my sub conscious mind was thinking *better to have a scraped knee and a bruised ego than be under that truck tire* :)
 

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Glad you and the bike came out pretty much ok!

"I scraped my knee and elbow kinda bad" That's why many of us wear gear pretty much all the time....you never know!

You were going slow in a parking lot and got banged up. With a riding jacket you probably would've just brushed off. ABS is not a be all end all. To me, it's more a part of a 'system' to help you as a rider but your experience and gear would be part of that system as well.

Hope you got a cute nurse's phone number! :yeahsmile:
 

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Possibly. I normally don't use much front brake at all, mostly engine braking. But the circumstances for this fall were just nuts. Another reason I went down is because once I hit the brakes, and my wheel locked up, that truck was still coming, so I instinctively turned the wheel harder to the right. I think my sub conscious mind was thinking *better to have a scraped knee and a bruised ego than be under that truck tire* :)
Yea when your in a joust with a truck the truck wins. A buddy of mine went down alittle while back. Grabbed the front brake and sand was on the road.Went down quick and hard.
 

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ABS would not of helped in this situation. I have locked the rear plenty of times on gravel and I know the ABS does not work at low speed.
 

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I'll tell my story just to make you feel better. A few days after buying my Versys I was turning off the main road onto a side road and I took the turn too wide.

Instead of looking down the road at where I wanted to be, I grabbed the brakes and stopped right at the edge of the pavement. Well, the bike's a little tall for me on a normal basis (I hadn't installed my lowering link yet). And at the edge of the pavement the ground was an extra inch away on my right.

So I fell over at a standstill and cracked the right side fairing. DOH!

That was when I decided for sure that I needed the lowering link. And that night I learned how to repair a cracked fairing!
 

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Was your wheel already turned for your righthander?
Yep. It happened so fast though. I didn't have time, or space to straighten out before grabbing the brakes. That gravel was like ball bearings. Straight dirt would have given better traction...made for a softer landing too.
 

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Yeah as mentioned, you used too much front brake while turning on gravel, and ABS would not have helped at such a low speed.
 

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One more chunk of hard earned experience that will make you a better operator. Glad you're OK.
 

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you used too much front brake while turning on gravel
It was emergency braking and the gravel was very well camouflaged , but I catch your meaning. I tend to do all of my braking before the turn and accelerate gradually through it.
 

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I'll tell my story just to make you feel better. A few days after buying my Versys I was turning off the main road onto a side road and I took the turn too wide.

Instead of looking down the road at where I wanted to be, I grabbed the brakes and stopped right at the edge of the pavement. Well, the bike's a little tall for me on a normal basis (I hadn't installed my lowering link yet). And at the edge of the pavement the ground was an extra inch away on my right.

So I fell over at a standstill and cracked the right side fairing. DOH!

That was when I decided for sure that I needed the lowering link. And that night I learned how to repair a cracked fairing!
If I am reading you correctly, what you are clearly saying is that you feel having ABS would have kept you out of trouble in this particular situation, right? I'm fairly perceptive that way. :rolleyes:
:cheers:
 

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Even braking without turning, on less than ideal surfaces... The Versys is in fact prone to understeer and front tire washout. Mediocre OEM Dunlops don't help much either.
 
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