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Stator Output/ Stator Testing/ Device load Ratings 2015

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I'm opting for just buying a new stator cover, as the tools and pain the ass of trying to tap it and all that and make sure it works are about the same price as the new part, and sorta iffy. Got a new bolt too just to be sure.

This also frees me up to do whatever I need to this one to make it work and/or try fixing the part without worry about my transport being out of commission.

But the more pertinent question is - can I ride the bike this weekend to get to work...

I suppose it's difficult to gauge if the screw will come out or not, and it seems the risks are pretty high as there's a lot of fast moving parts in there... seems like just 2 of the gears in there run over 80 bucks each... *sigh*

If I put some jb weld all over the in the screw, think it'll stay? I have a new cover, bolt and even plate coming in the mail already... Could even jb weld the plate to the case... but I guess the even the jb weld could come off inside, eh?

It seems like the alternator lead wire bracket is pretty important to keep the stator wire from rubbing on the rotor, yeah?

I haven't even opened it back up (I just put everything back together since I don't actually have a garage to work in), to see about getting the bolt out.



Here's the old stator, which was indeed burnt:
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Dropbox link for full res: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wr32bm1ekncebp8/AACdhnF7lLPuXUTJBWrQLC9ha?dl=0
 
This seems like a good solution, no?
https://www.amazon.com/TIME-SERT-Me...2K/ref=sr_1_12?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1473261365&sr=1-12&keywords=helicoil+m6

And why not use a Helicoil?
https://www.amazon.com/Helicoil-554...Thread/dp/B0002KKPXK/ref=pd_sbs_263_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=E3HYQTRQ48FA0W5THN2W

UPDATE:
Decided to get the Time-Sert kit, and fancy new drill from Amazon with overnight shipping and see how rearing goes, if I'm lucky I can get it repaired before the weekend and before the new stator cover arrives and just re-sell or see about returning the replacement parts. :)

onewizard, I'm a bit confused by your last suggestion, are you suggesting a set screw from the side? That's a neat one.

Ultimately, I'm just gonna leverage amazon's overnight shipping and I think the Time-Sert may be the best possible option next to replacement anyhow (though price wise, it's only marginally better than replacement).
 
Helicoil / Thread repair
https://www.amazon.com/TIME-SERT-Met...vert-amazon-20

Helicoil is a brand name that first invented a thread repair method.
Will not work because you don't have the depth or the outside diameter of material to work with.

My last suggestion of a stainless 18/8 set screw will definitely work provide you are careful not to over torque the nut when assembling. From the outside you will see a stainless set screw you never saw before, total cost would be less than $20, if you have the tap and drill bit less than $1 provided you have loctite.
No drill or tap (until the kit comes in the mail). Is it true that there's no space? I guess I'll find out soon.

I may try the 1/4-20 self tapping screw. onewizard suggested it might crack the aluminum, but I'm willing to risk that as I already have a replacement cover in the mail. Thanks for putting in another vote there, quexpress


So get this... when I went to torque the allen keys I realized my allen key socket was 3/8, but my torque wrench was 1/4in... ironically this was after just hand tightinging the bolts, which I'm sure would have been fine...
But I undid them and re-did them with this tool:
A 5mm hex key 1/4 socket, 1/4in to 1/2in socket adapter, 1/2 socket extension, 19mm open/box wrench, 6mm hex allen key, 6mm hex 3/8 socket, torque wrench.

Ironically, it's not that I had the wrong tool for the job, but just that in the hustle with dark looming, after getting the stator screws set, I forgot to re-adjust the torque for the lesser bolt, and the higher torque stripped it... I didn't even think that I'd be so likely to strip it, but then, I just wasn't thinking about it...

unfortunately... I didn't stop to take pictures :p
 
So if you lived near by I would have done the repair for free, you spend no more than $2 for the stainless set screw, in fact I would have helped install it, as the time I wasted far exceeds the effort involved in repairing this, I say wasted but not really, someone else may be able to use this info. What does bother me is the deleted post you made, which I automatically get in my email, even after it gets deleted:

supaiku said:
"I'm opting for just buying a new stator cover, as the tools and pain the ass of trying to tap it and all that and make sure it works are about the same price as the new part, and sorta iffy. Got a new bolt too just to be sure.

This also frees me up to do whatever I need to this one to make it work and/or try fixing the part without worry about my transport being out of commission.

But the more pertinent question is - can I ride the bike this weekend to get to work...

I suppose it's difficult to gauge if the screw will come out or not, and it seems the risks are pretty high as there's a lot of fast moving parts in there... seems like just 2 of the gears in there run over 80 bucks each... *sigh*"
Editing the post would have been the right thing to do, not deleting it, as all that responded have these posts in their email.I seriously doubt Kawasaki has this cover in stock, so expect 2 to three weeks ( 10 business days)
I here the frustration, for now your on your own. Enjoy your bike ,Wizard Over & Out
Indeed. It'd be great if I knew someone around here with this tools/skills.

It's difficult because apparently the hardware stores around here aren't very well stocked. I don't know any machine shops, though I suppose I could look into it. At this point time is getting limited.

FYI, the post wasn't deleted, it has the images on the previous page, I edited it. There's always email notification settings.
 

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Good to know - I'll look into the replacing the shunt regulator, but for now I'm happy to have a working motorcycle again...


Was a bit crazy this week - where I live all my woo-woo friends were talking about the horoscope and mercury, etc.... i went a little MIA there 'cuz I was traveling and just waiting, but here's what happened, whether for other's reference, or curiosity's sake.

I had left the screw in there when I realized i accidentally stripped it and put it all back together since it was nearing dark. I had applied blue loctite. After doing all this research and getting a new drill among other things I was prepared to either repair it myself or take it to a machine shop... wasn't sure which, but after removing it, it was very solid, and after putting an allen key in and lightly engaging the bolt, I could feel that the loctite was solid and hadn't broken, and the bolt was very secure. I decided to risk the weekend ride, and rode some 400mi round trip for work with the stripped bolt.

In truth, it's quite possible I could have ridden many thousands of miles, as when I took the bolt out it didn't really come out too easily, and the threads didn't come out until I started trying to put another bolt it.

Ultimately, after receiving a replacement stator cover (which I'm not returning), I got a look at the bolt hole and realized it's actually quite deep! a full 16mm at least. For some reason they use an 8mm bolt, but there's much more space. When I realized that I decided it was silly to replace it and sillier to tap it, and I just went and got a 16mm long M6 bolt, put it in with loctite red and I've got it all back together now.

Nice that I can also return the time-sert kit I bought (not cheap), but I'm keeping the drill :) In hind-sight, I'm not sure why I was trying to go with an M7, M7 bolts and taps are damned near impossible to find, switching to standard would have been perfectly reasonable, and I had found a local machine shop that'd do it. Next time, I've got their number on hand.

I was able to re-use the aftermarket green gasket once, but it broke after removing the stator cover post 400mi ride. This time I re-used the original gasket just for kicks and haven't noticed a leak (i have another gasket on hand and will replace it if it leaks).