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Hello,
Does anyone here have a SW-MOTECH centre stand installed on his Gen3 (2015-2018) Versys 650?
If so, could you glance at your right foot-peg and tell me if you believe that a lowered right foot-peg would interfere with the spring mechanism of the centre stand?
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Any insight would be much appreciated!


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https://www.kawasakiversys.com/foru...d-650-a.html?highlight=SW-Motech+Center+Stand

Several posted that it worked on their bikes, some 2015, however no photos or description if their bikes were lowered. With some positive input along with photos I will add this info to How To Forum.

Hi,


I'm focused on lowered foot-pegs ... not lowered Versys. For a lowered Versys, the legs on the center stand need to be shortened (which I will do if I purchase one).
I need to know if the lowered right foot-peg will clear the center stand spring/mechanism.



Thanks for the input. Much appreciated! :)
 

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Just looked at mine and snapped a quick few shots. I hope they help. But that "U" shaped mount under the foot peg is part of the mount for the center stand and my finger shows how close it is to the stock foot peg and as far as the spring, that sticks pretty far out so it would seem that any lowered foot peg would have to mounted far off the bike and not really work out. But again, hope the pictures help you.
 

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Footpeg Mods that I will Most Probably do

Hi,


After having temporarily installed the right side center stand bracket, I concluded that this is what I need to do to my lowered foot-pegs.


1. A small piece of the center stand bracket needs to be cutout to enable the foot-peg block to fall into place. A piece of steel will most probably need to be welded to the back of the stand bracket ... although this bracket is 1/4-inch thick. The center stand spring is HUGE!





2. A small portion of the foot-peg block will need to be removed to permit installing the foot-peg in the middle of the block instead of from the side.





Any insight would be appreciated.


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Right and left lowering blocks reversed

I'm sitting on the fence with this mod and will therefore give myself a few days before doing one of these modifications.


This is the results of mounting the left lowering block on the right side (with the right side foot-peg):





If I do the above, the brake pedal arm would need to be extended because the pedal would be TOO CLOSE to the foot-peg.


With the left lowering peg on the right side, less material would need to be removed from the center stand bracket than in the previously mentioned mod:





With the right lowering block on the left side, the shifter arm would need to be extended. It would then be WAY too close to the foot-peg:





As often mentioned in American Choppers: Any more "idears"?


Much appreciated!


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Your idea gave me another one

Next suggestion is getting different lowering mounts. I would suggest contacting Speedy. Instead of dropping down, offset out and down. This may be worthwhile to Speedy if enough people bought the stand.

Had another look, only one photo that appears the 1/4 inch plate is the interference , not the piece with the spring attached.So if the lowering peg mount extended out another 3/8 of a inch then dropped down would work ? I would think you could make something out of wood as a template , only need the right side changed, with the same drop as the original. Then have it duplicated in aluminum.
In fact I would attempt it in aluminum, using a block of aircraft aluminum, duplicate the mounting for the peg, but delay drilling the hole for the upper mounting, leaving the block say 1/2 inch offset to start with, you can always make it less, much harder to make it more:grin2:. I have done this on a metal bandsaw, I know it will be crude to start with, but using a saber saw doesn't usually give a square cut. After that it is a machine shop and milling machine or cnc machine.

Experience has taught me a long time ago to take a step back when hitting a snag with mods, etc. and to pay attention to fellow rider's ideas. Your idea of making a modified lowering block for the right side foot-peg reminded me of an important detail which I was forgetting.


1. I'm using SW-Motech Ion Dual Position Foot-pegs which are already lowered by 15 mm when compared to the OEM ones.





This foot-peg easily clears the center stand bracket.





These SW-Motech foot-pegs are fastened to their foot-peg blocks with one small bolt.





Unless I change my mind again (which is always very possible), I tend to think that I will take a piece of 1/4-inch steel strapping and fabricate 2 short lowering straps. Each strap will have 2 holes that are distanced at 1 1/8 inch center to center.

That 1/4-inch strap could then be placed between the foot-peg and the foot-peg block.






In my case, I believe that this could be the simplest solution.


Thank you! :thumb:
 

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It looks to me as, by removing some aluminum from that "lowering-block", you MIGHT 'fatally' weaken it.

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Good point!
As mentioned in my previous post, I'm going in a different route. I will not use the Moto Werk lowering blocks.
Thank you! :)
 

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Mockup










I'm quite comfortable with this quick mockup. The lowered right foot-peg now clears the center stand spring pin, etc.


I'll start shopping for 1/4-inch steel in order to make the final foot-peg lowering brackets.
 

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Countersunk Flat Head Socket Caps

That bolt head shown, on the final model I would drill and tap, drop 1 size, go with a grade 8 or better bolt that has the same OD as the ID of the threaded portion you have attached to.
We are on the same page.


I will be using M8-1.25 flat head socket cap screws (class 12.9 alloy steel w/black oxide) similar to these:




Thank you! :)
 

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Well , your set up look good,anyway i was wondering if you really need the lowering mount for the foot peg. I remove mine after sometime and the difference was minimal.

When i bought the bike its was too tall for me at 5" 9" and ordered the lower lit from Speedy. But after sometime, i removed it and went back to original set up and my height didn't matter a all. sometime we do it out of fear , sometime over engineering our thinking.

I understand but prefer my Versys with lowered foot-pegs. IMHO it is much more comfortable. :)
 

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quexpress,i say this with the highest regard.We bestow you with the "Okie Engineering" knight of the first order award. This is the kind of problem solving that astronauts have to be able to do!

:funnypost: :)
 

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My 2015 Versys 650 has been lowered plus the foot-pegs have also been lowered. To install a SW Motech centre stand would be a challenge … but not difficult to do.

SW Motech Centre Stand



The lowered foot-pegs (Moto Werks lowering blocks) on my Versys interfere with the SW Motech centre stand. The bottom tip of the right hand side lowering block hits the top of the centre stand bracket.

To correct this, a small piece of the centre stand bracket would need to be cut out in order to let the foot-peg block fall into place. A piece of steel would then most probably need to be welded to the back of the stand bracket ... This did not appeal to me.



I therefore decided to modify my SW-Motech Ion Dual Position Foot-pegs instead of cutting into the centre stand.

The foot-pegs will be lowered by the same amount as with the Moto Werks lowering blocks by using pieces of 3/8 inch X 3 inch x 1 1/4 inch aluminum strapping.



These plates will now cause my pegs to be lowered by 1 1/8 inches (same as Moto Werks lowering blocks).



Class 8.8 flat head cap screws: M8 – 1.25 (x 16mm +/-)



Class 8.8 flat head cap screws ¼ - 20 (x 1 inch +/-)



This is the end result.






The foot-pegs now easily clear the centre stand.



Lowering the centre stand

Since my Versys 650 was lowered, the centre stand also needed to be lowered. Otherwise I would have great difficulty to bring the bike up on the centre stand.

The measured distance from the middle of the centre stand holding strap (under the muffler) to the floor showed that my bike had been lowered by approximately ¾ inch at that point (compared to OEM). The centre stand would therefore need to be shortened by ¾ inch.

The centre stand was scribe marked to indicate the cut locations and also to line up the posts properly.

Holes were also drilled into the legs in order to later permit welding of slugs inside each leg. This reinforced each leg and also ensured that the legs were straight.






Centre stand ready to receive the slugs.



Slugs inserted into each leg.



Centre stand welded and ready for powdercoating.



Powdercoated centre stand.



A brake drum spring removal tool makes the installation and removal of the centre stand spring extremely easy. This should only take a few seconds to do. :)



Spring installation


Install the spring as shown in the above diagram

Pass the notched end of the brake drum spring tool through the rear spring end and then over the rear spring anchor post. Lift the spring over the post.



To remove the spring from the stand, place the socket end over the spring anchor post and twist to remove the spring.

 

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My 2015 Versys 650 has been lowered plus the foot-pegs have also been lowered. To install a SW Motech centre stand would be a challenge … but not difficult to do.

SW Motech Centre Stand



The lowered foot-pegs (Moto Werks lowering blocks) on my Versys interfere with the SW Motech centre stand. The bottom tip of the right hand side lowering block hits the top of the centre stand bracket.

To correct this, a small piece of the centre stand bracket would need to be cut out in order to let the foot-peg block fall into place. A piece of steel would then most probably need to be welded to the back of the stand bracket ... This did not appeal to me.



I therefore decided to modify my SW-Motech Ion Dual Position Foot-pegs instead of cutting into the centre stand.

The foot-pegs will be lowered by the same amount as with the Moto Werks lowering blocks by using pieces of 3/8 inch X 3 inch x 1 1/4 inch aluminum strapping.



These plates will now cause my pegs to be lowered by 1 1/8 inches (same as Moto Werks lowering blocks).



Class 8.8 flat head cap screws: M8 – 1.25 (x 16mm +/-)



Class 8.8 flat head cap screws ¼ - 20 (x 1 inch +/-)



This is the end result.






The foot-pegs now easily clear the centre stand.



Lowering the centre stand

Since my Versys 650 was lowered, the centre stand also needed to be lowered. Otherwise I would have great difficulty to bring the bike up on the centre stand.

The measured distance from the middle of the centre stand holding strap (under the muffler) to the floor showed that my bike had been lowered by approximately ¾ inch at that point (compared to OEM). The centre stand would therefore need to be shortened by ¾ inch.

The centre stand was scribe marked to indicate the cut locations and also to line up the posts properly.

Holes were also drilled into the legs in order to later permit welding of slugs inside each leg. This reinforced each leg and also ensured that the legs were straight.






Centre stand ready to receive the slugs.



Slugs inserted into each leg.



Centre stand welded and ready for powdercoating.



Powdercoated centre stand.



A brake drum spring removal tool makes the installation and removal of the centre stand spring extremely easy. This should only take a few seconds to do. :)



Spring installation


Install the spring as shown in the above diagram

Pass the notched end of the brake drum spring tool through the rear spring end and then over the rear spring anchor post. Lift the spring over the post.



To remove the spring from the stand, place the socket end over the spring anchor post and twist to remove the spring.

 

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:surprise::clap::yeahsmile::thumb::goodidea::thanx:



:feedback: Just havin fun here , a picture is worth a *&%$$$ >:)








:funnypost:



Absolutely excellent post / thread :thanx:
 

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:surprise::clap::yeahsmile::thumb::goodidea::thanx:



:feedback: Just havin fun here , a picture is worth a *&%$$$ >:)








:funnypost:



Absolutely excellent post / thread :thanx:
Huh??? That went right over my head LOL! Semantics I guess ...
My thread title was: Lowered Foot-pegs & Lowered SW Motech Centre Stand on Lowered 2015 Versys 650

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It doesn't get any better than this, a outstanding member @quexpress FYI we now have several behind the sign in wall forums.
 
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