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I haven't seen any actual pics of bikes or threads talking about flatfoots, but if it makes the sidestand any more stable, then it sounds like a good idea to me. Although if it is sitting on the edge of the plane, then it may be unstable as well. I guess that's the trick, is to always leave it secure on a larger base for stability. $40 extra for a more stable side stand sounds like a deal to me: I don't really like sidestands too much except for convenience anyway.

And then again, if no one else uses them, then the stock style tube may be inherently better for flexibility of ground surfaces and/or up in the reclined position??

Anyone got any pics of flat foots on their bike, or pics on any bike will do. I am more interested on how it looks in the UP position and how it intersects with the other assemblies on the bike (things are real tight around the sidestand up, and it's hard to picture a mini Frisbee down there.) AS WELL, if you glue it level, will if fit well UP sliced in at that particular angle? I did not see any pics on Speedy's site with the side stand up: or anyone who has said they used it after reading about over 50 posts.

Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm about to put it on and am nervous about ANYTHING NOW that I'm the first one doing anything. Being a Pioneer sux big time - $$$$!!
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I haven't seen any actual pics of bikes or threads talking about flatfoots, but if it makes the sidestand any more stable, then it sounds like a good idea to me. Although if it is sitting on the edge of the plane, then it may be unstable as well. I guess that's the trick, is to always leave it secure on a larger base for stability. $40 extra for a more stable side stand sounds like a deal to me: I don't really like sidestands too much except for convenience anyway.

And then again, if no one else uses them, then the stock style tube may be inherently better for flexibility of ground surfaces and/or up in the reclined position??

Anyone got any pics of flat foots on their bike, or pics on any bike will do. I am more interested on how it looks in the UP position and how it intersects with the other assemblies on the bike (things are real tight around the sidestand up, and it's hard to picture a mini Frisbee down there.) AS WELL, if you glue it level, will if fit well UP sliced in at that particular angle? I did not see any pics on Speedy's site with the side stand up: or anyone who has said they used it after reading about over 50 posts.

Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm about to put it on and am nervous about ANYTHING NOW that I'm the first one doing anything. Being a Pioneer sux big time - $$$$!!
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Thanks!!
It works fine and is big enough that it isn't liable to melt too deep into hot asphalt, but it's also big enough that it scrapes in corners. Once it does there is no give to it. Stay hard on it and it will lift the rear wheel up in a corner. For any who might be wondering, that's not a good thing...
 

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It works fine and is big enough that it isn't liable to melt too deep into hot asphalt, but it's also big enough that it scrapes in corners. Once it does there is no give to it. Stay hard on it and it will lift the rear wheel up in a corner. For any who might be wondering, that's not a good thing...


WHOA! What a shovel scraper! Thanks guys!! My big azz would be dug in at every corner apex :D

Yeah, I was thinking Honda Gal being a track racer too, is usually right-on with her performance assessments. I'm not lowering the front end either, because the 17" tire is dicey low-handling enough for me the way it is stock; and 1.6" (rear only) lowered is good enough for me versus 1.85" (front and rear) lowered (and Joe says so anyway :) In fact, I would almost like an 18" front wheel, but lowering the rear only should help the front leaning feeling anyway. The sitting back should also help sitting ergonomics (and make it feel more like a flat-track race bike: i.e. - Ron Woods, ha ha.) I'm glad I asked. EVERY oem spec change needs countless verifications in every dimension! I had to read a lot of "good quality, feels good, and quick shipping" posts to find the good handling ones: but they were there thank goodness.

Thanks again Guys (you too Honda Gal!)

I have one on my 2008.And just put one on my 2015.The bikes are not lowered.
That sounds like a good alternative too (if I had a 34" inseam :) I'm looking forward to the lower center of gravity and improved seating position. Thank goodness there is enough knowledgeable feedback on this site to figure what every different person needs to fit their own unique body.
 

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I have exactly what you have, Speedy's lowered footpeg and flatfoot on a Speedy lowering link. I have had the total weight of the bike on that stand-----not intentionally---just saying, also my prop stand works perfectly with the flatfoot for front or rear tire.
 

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I have exactly what you have, Speedy's lowered footpeg and flatfoot on a Speedy lowering link. I have had the total weight of the bike on that stand-----not intentionally---just saying, also my prop stand works perfectly with the flatfoot for front or rear tire.
And it looks good and was shipped fast too, but that is not what the issue is.

I have almost all of Speedy's Vs. 650 items except for the cruiser pegs. But I'm going to pass on the flat foot in favor of Ninja oem race bike engineering in this case: due to recommendations and empirical evidence from top knowledgeable racing posters here.
>:) (Almost $20 for good 2012 Ninja stand, spring, nut, and bolt)

It's just preference though: nothing wrong with either choice. I am heavier like Saddlebag though, so I want to reduce the chance of scraping. Lighter owners like Maverick do not have anything to worry about concerning scraping.
 

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And it looks good and was shipped fast too, but that is not what the issue is.

I have almost all of Speedy's Vs. 650 items except for the cruiser pegs. But I'm going to pass on the flat foot in favor of Ninja oem race bike engineering in this case: due to recommendations and empirical evidence from top knowledgeable racing posters here.
>:) (Almost $20 for good 2012 Ninja stand, spring, nut, and bolt)

It's just preference though: nothing wrong with either choice. I am heavier like Saddlebag though, so I want to reduce the chance of scraping. Lighter owners like Maverick do not have anything to worry about concerning scraping.
I have the Ninja stand WITH the flatfoot (currently not installed as I haven't had time to get the lowering link installed) as the foot portion of the Ninja stand is the same as the V650 foot and is rather useless. The Ninja stand is just shorter to match the lowered height.
 

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I have the Ninja stand WITH the flatfoot (currently not installed as I haven't had time to get the lowering link installed) as the foot portion of the Ninja stand is the same as the V650 foot and is rather useless. The Ninja stand is just shorter to match the lowered height.
I tossed that idea around as to restoring my bike to original, after several mods I threw that idea out the door and used my trusty hacksaw on the original stand exactly as in the picture.
When it comes time to sell the bike, somebody else can worry about changing it back, as the stand is only used when the bike is parked, my preference is to be riding the bike with the stand up.
 

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I have an extra one of these minus the cord and fastener laying in a drawer if you want it.

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No thanks Joe! I had a stock Kawasaki plastic green one from the PO. I appreciate the offer though. It looks like a pain to dick with, but if you don't have any choice, they are probably good to keep on hand. When I had my Norton Commandos with terrible long drooping kickstands, i used to use flattened Coke cans, lol. We've come a long way since then :grin2:

Joe, you don't need to buy a stinkin' BMW: you already got one! Save your money and enjoy the Japanese cycles.
 

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No thanks Joe! I had a stock Kawasaki plastic green one from the PO. I appreciate the offer though. It looks like a pain to dick with, but if you don't have any choice, they are probably good to keep on hand. When I had my Norton Commandos with terrible long drooping kickstands, i used to use flattened Coke cans, lol. We've come a long way since then :grin2:

Joe, you don't need to buy a stinkin' BMW: you already got one! Save your money and enjoy the Japanese cycles.

Well i've come to the conclusion that I'm pretty happy with the FJR and will keep it for awhile.:smile2:
 

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I tossed that idea around as to restoring my bike to original, after several mods I threw that idea out the door and used my trusty hacksaw on the original stand exactly as in the picture.
When it comes time to sell the bike, somebody else can worry about changing it back, as the stand is only used when the bike is parked, my preference is to be riding the bike with the stand up.
Oh, I have no desire to return the bike to stock when I get around to selling it, this method was just less of a PITA for me :)
 

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I finally converted to Speedy's flat foot and wouldn't think about ever changing back. It doesn't sink when I park the bike and has never given me a problem going through the twisties. Highly recommended! Speedy's highway bars look like a possible future addition. My bike is just lowered in the back with Speedy's lowering kit. I chose not to drop the front and it has worked out very well.


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...but wish Speedy made a smaller version of the flatfoot.
Wouldn't that just negate the whole idea, making it smaller? I use a 4x4" piece of aluminum on a string, that fits into my vest pocket.







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Just to clarify things a bit :)

Saddlebag,
You have a 2015 Versys 1000 that you lowered with your own lowering kit, right? Then you got my flatfoot for lowering kit which was designed to work with my lowering kit (doesn't lower the bike as low as yours) hence the scraping while cornering that you wrote about. Should've mentioned it to be fair.

Speedy
 
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