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Popped my rear tire -- AGAIN...

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Hey Folks!

I posted in what, October that I popped my brand new rear Michelin tire? Well, I did it again on my new brand new tire. I even avoided construction areas and sketchy roads like the plague. Image of the small puncture is below. What a buzz kill....

This puncture is pretty tiny and exactly in the center of the tread, and it still holds air but just leaks over time.

So thoughts:
1. Last time I used proper judgement, and just bought a new tire. This time, I'm pissed and want to patch it. All the shops around me say no :LOL:.
If I were to find a way to pop the tire off, do a good quality internal patch/plug myself, how do people feel about that? Is it totally unsafe, or shall I be fine?

2. Should I just full send and put a basic external patch in with some rubber cement, then test frequently for leaks and air pressure?

3. Obviously the smartest/safest way is to get a new tire. BUT-- my wife will punch me in the trachea. Since i keep frying rear tires, I'm not going to buy a super nice Michelin again. Obviously my luck and my wallet aren't aligned. Any takes on some non-OEM sizes like 170/60R17 or 150/70R17? I really want to do some dirt road riding so was thinking of an ADV tire anyways.

Thanks!
Jon

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plug it and ride it it will be fine ...small nail hole like that in the crown will plug and seal no problem ..think about fitting tpms they are cheap and easy to fit ..i use them on all bikes and are really good at warning you before you find out the old fashioned way ..bleeps and flashes red if you lose more than 1psi in one minute ..mount mine above the sat nav has been very good at warning me in good time

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plug it and ride it it will be fine ...small nail hole like that will plug and seal no problem ..think about fitting tpms they are cheap and easy to fit .

Awesome! thanks for the tip! You mean an interior patch/plug type? I might as well just grab a tire changer then and just muscle my way through it. I will look into a cheap TPMS too, that's a good idea.
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Put in a tire worm plug. i done a few and havent had one pop out. And carry a repair kit and pump all times!
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A $5. rope kit at wally world. I've done 20-30 over the years with no issues.
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Thanks team, you talked me off of a bit of a ledge there. I was about to cry myself to sleep with a 12 pack but I suppose Ill just grab a plug kit instead.
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be fine use the reamer well so it goes through fairly easy ..put some glue on the reamer and try and wet the inside of the hole with it as alot will get squezzed away when you force the worm in lubing the hole really does help ,,have your worm ready inserted in the tool ..be as quick as u can to lube it up with glue and get it in quick ..they can go off surprisingly quickly ..the wetter the glue the easier it goes in and lets go ..be reet
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just on the subject i had a real twart of a puncture last year 15mm glass ,,the tpms went off and when i looked it was 31 by the time i puller in it was 15 so that was worth twenty five quid for sure
at the side of the road i had to stuff it with all five worms and it still was coming out slow ..i do carry a holts tyre weld and for good measure stuck that in too ..punped it up to 40 and the white stuff was still pissing out ..so i jumped on and had ten miles to the digs by which time it was down to 25 ...knowing what was being lost from the display really helped with the ride ... i got to the pub and it was still fizzing a bit but was knackered and ordered a lager and said feck it ill sort it out in the morning ...i left the puncture face to the floor and the next day the holts white shite had indeed managed to stop the leak ..s o i blew it to 40 thinking it may lose and set off 110 miles with two tyre shops in the sat nav ..it would of course be a sunday ..point being i could keep a eye on the pressure all the way and having lost nothing after 40 miles decided id take the motorway for twenty to shorten the journey ...it was really good to have that moniter as it took all the guessing out of it ...got home ok ..they tyre was scrap though
that tyre weld stuff is ok for emergency stuff when its dark ..hard shoulders of the motorways and stuff it does work on small punctures ..the trick with at stuff is to leave the nail in until you have got the stuff in and inflated the tyre ..since that puncture i revised mey worm kit to one that has three different widths as that large puncture was dodgy with 5 in there ...the holts stuff deffo helped me out that day and on balence is worth carrying as a backup to worms or flaky compressor if you have the room ..i do me own tyres and its a myth the white crap damages the rims it washes off easy with a hose and paintbrush in thirty seconds so it not too bad unless maby u leave it for weeks ?
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just on the subject i had a real twart of a puncture last year 15mm glass ,,the tpms went off and when i looked it was 31 by the time i puller in it was 15 so that was worth twenty five quid for sure
at the side of the road i had to stuff it with all five worms and it still was coming out slow ..i do carry a holts tyre weld and for good measure stuck that in too ..punped it up to 40 and the white stuff was still pissing out ..so i jumped on and had ten miles to the digs by which time it was down to 25 ...knowing what was being lost from the display really helped with the ride ... i got to the pub and it was still fizzing a bit but was knackered and ordered a lager and said feck it ill sort it out in the morning ...i left the puncture face to the floor and the next day the holts white shite had indeed managed to stop the leak ..s o i blew it to 40 thinking it may lose and set off 110 miles with two tyre shops in the sat nav ..it would of course be a sunday ..point being i could keep a eye on the pressure all the way and having lost nothing after 40 miles decided id take the motorway for twenty to shorten the journey ...it was really good to have that moniter as it took all the guessing out of it ...got home ok ..they tyre was scrap though
that tyre weld stuff is ok for emergency stuff when its dark ..hard shoulders of the motorways and stuff it does work on small punctures ..the trick with at stuff is to leave the nail in until you have got the stuff in and inflated the tyre ..since that puncture i revised mey worm kit to one that has three different widths as that large puncture was dodgy with 5 in there ...the holts stuff deffo helped me out that day and on balence is worth carrying as a backup to worms or flaky compressor if you have the room ..i do me own tyres and its a myth the white crap damages the rims it washes off easy with a hose and paintbrush in thirty seconds so it not too bad unless maby u leave it for weeks ?
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As others said (except maybe that wall of text with no punctuation I can't read): you can fix that easily. The proper fix is 1) dismounting 2) patching from the inside 3) remounting 4) maybe rebalancing; but honestly, I've used the "temporary" plugs multiple times, and they work well.

Check this out:

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Do you have a Cycle Gear near by? My local one patched a tire on A Harley I had, have to take the tire into them. If so call and see what they say around here not all of them do tire mounting.
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Plug it ('rope') and forget it.

I picked up this screw in the middle of a Utah trip 3 years ago. Tire shop in Kanab, UT wouldn't touch the motorcyle tire, but they let me use their tools and plug (better than the kit I had with me). Rode another 'spirited' ~800 miles to Denver then put another 2,000 or so miles on it with no issues.

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None of the shops near me would touch it when I got a roofing nail in my tire. Tried the Kawi dealer, CycleGear, Discount Tire, local tire shops, nobody will touch a motorcycle tire if you ask 'em to patch it.

Wasn't about to throw out my brand new $300 Michelin Road 6 either, so I put a rope plug in and check the tire pressure religiously.
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just on the subject i had a real twart of a puncture last year 15mm glass ,,the tpms went off and when i looked it was 31 by the time i puller in it was 15 so that was worth twenty five quid for sure
Holy crap that's an ugly situation! At least you made it to the pub, that's the most important bit :LOL:
Yeah i will for sure look into the TPMS system, that's a good idea. Soon i will get a tire changer too. I want something that can do car/truck tires too, so I will make that as an investment.

I did get the patch in yesterday. Luckily it was such clean, straight puncture I think it will be fine like that for awhile. The patch fit really tightly too, was pretty hard to get in (no jokes intended). The nail itself was holding most of the air anyways. If not, I have more patches and emergency roadside on my insurance.

All of the other guys who chimed in, thanks for the input and I'm glad we're on the same page. Throwing away my $250 tire (the shop i bought the bike from mounted it for free out of sympathy) with like 200 miles on it would have made me really angry. I put an inflator, and a pressure gauge in the kit and i will monitor it as well. I will overfill it tonight and do a pressure decay test on it too before remounting it to the bike.

Thanks for the tips everyone. (note i did trim off the patch, i just left it in the photo to show how cleanly it went in).


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I had a screw in my tire after 5k km. I pluged it with Dynaplug and rode with no problem until I changed it. (you can see the photos when I plugged it and when I changed it)
It took 3 min and I didn't even had to add any air until I change it :O

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i did trim off the patch
You call it a patch, but pedantic me must point out that it's called a plug, not a patch.

Project Farm guy on Youtube put 100 plugs into a tire, and it still worked fine:
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Hey Folks!

I posted in what, October that I popped my brand new rear Michelin tire? Well, I did it again on my new brand new tire. I even avoided construction areas and sketchy roads like the plague. Image of the small puncture is below. What a buzz kill....

This puncture is pretty tiny and exactly in the center of the tread, and it still holds air but just leaks over time.

So thoughts:
1. Last time I used proper judgement, and just bought a new tire. This time, I'm pissed and want to patch it. All the shops around me say no :LOL:.
If I were to find a way to pop the tire off, do a good quality internal patch/plug myself, how do people feel about that? Is it totally unsafe, or shall I be fine?

2. Should I just full send and put a basic external patch in with some rubber cement, then test frequently for leaks and air pressure?

3. Obviously the smartest/safest way is to get a new tire. BUT-- my wife will punch me in the trachea. Since i keep frying rear tires, I'm not going to buy a super nice Michelin again. Obviously my luck and my wallet aren't aligned. Any takes on some non-OEM sizes like 170/60R17 or 150/70R17? I really want to do some dirt road riding so was thinking of an ADV tire anyways.

Thanks!
Jon

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A $5. rope kit at wally world. I've done 20-30 over the years with no issues.
I'm in the "put in a plug & fill it to 42psi then use it till it's worn out" CAMP. I have run rear SHINKO E-705s in 150/70 x 17 (at 42psi) for years.
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I'm in the "put in a plug & fill it to 42psi then use it till it's worn out" CAMP. I have run rear SHINKO E-705s in 150/70 x 17 (at 42psi) for years.
Thank you sir, I will give that a shot and see how it goes. So far it hasnt been leaking air, i will keep an eye on the pressure. I will plan on the set of Shinkos after that, i have some gravel roads that i have been to chicken to attack on my street tires.... will let those wear out faster. Any experience with 170/60R17s? I think they would look cooler with how beefy they are.
... Any experience with 170/60R17s? I think they would look cooler with how beefy they are....
"jdrocks" uses that size, so look at his "BUILD" threads in:
Other Motorcycle Make and Model Discussion .....I know it'll be in one or t'other Kawasaki ER-6C, that's C as in Custom ...OR this one. The 2021 Versys V649HP, and 2023 Versys Scooter.

Good luck!
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Thanks team, you talked me off of a bit of a ledge there. I was about to cry myself to sleep with a 12 pack but I suppose Ill just grab a plug kit instead.
I'm guessing your old new tyre is ok for a plug too... if you still have it
tell your lady that chances are you wont be spending on a rear tyre for a long time
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