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Living in the Philippines has its ups and downs when it comes to officialdom, but this takes the cake for new vehicle owners.

As my New Member intro stated I'm a new owner of a V1k, after months and months of looking and trying to decide which brand and model. Mostly because of what's available and costs involved here (price sometimes a third more than other countries). Anyway I transgress....

So I pick up my bike last Thursday. Usually here the documents (OR/CR) take a few months to come through, (plate numbers maybe months or years), so a Document of Conduction is issued so you can ride/drive on the roads. Sounds OK?

Not anymore, the day after... the rule has changed. The dealership can sell you a vehicle. But you're only allowed to drive/ride it to your premises. No further unless a private road. This until you receive your OR/CR. The dealership said I'd get it in a month or so!!!

Why is this I hear you gasping... because the government agencies are incompetant in supplying the correct paperwork or plate number. Btw, even if you get a plate number you're not allowed to make your own plate, which can be supplied by stores that cater for this, previously allowed. Again this happened because government agency involved could not get their paperwork through in a timely manner. (Many agencies still use pen and innumerable amounts of paper to do all this).

So not only do I not have proper paperwork for my new bike sitting outside my house, but if caught riding the driver gets a $200 fine, and dealership $2000. Which surprisingly enough has to be paid by the rider, because of their purchase waiver!

So because the government departments can't do their job there are going to be many such riders/drivers in the same position.

As the tourist department keeps quoting..."Its more fun in the Philippines"

Hopefully everyone understood all this...



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Ride it anyway. With that bike, you can easily outrun whatever the cops are riding/driving. Just kidding, sort of. I hope your paper work comes soon.
 

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Riding is A Privilege

Driving is a Privilege , this brings new meaning to that phrase.Here in Canada, I could be dropped off at a dealership, with my full gear, walk in, pick out a bike, buy it using a credit card, call my insurance, have the temporary insurance emailed to the dealership, while the dealer is getting plates, and about 3 hours later be riding home on a new bike, in fact I could have taken a train from another Province, hired a cab to the dealer ( I would suggest to prearrange a couple days ahead) and never see the dealer again.
 

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Driving is a Privilege , this brings new meaning to that phrase.Here in Canada, I could be dropped off at a dealership, with my full gear, walk in, pick out a bike, buy it using a credit card, call my insurance, have the temporary insurance emailed to the dealership, while the dealer is getting plates, and about 3 hours later be riding home on a new bike, in fact I could have taken a train from another Province, hired a cab to the dealer ( I would suggest to prearrange a couple days ahead) and never see the dealer again.
I wish it were so simple here.

All government agencies, no matter what for, have innumerable back log of paperwork. Mostly because no one trusts anyone else, so everything is in triplet, quadtriplet, biblet, zillionlet, etc... Many things are done on paper first before even put onto an antiquated computer system, worked on by a person who has a break every ten minutes for a snack, a pee, another snack, getting water, yet another snack....and all of this before lunch.

To give you an idea of the problem. Last year the government outsourced their number plate manufacturing etc to a company, god knows where, and they ended up with thousands upon thousands of plate numbers, but they could not give out the plate, because they were in no order and the paperwork was of course in the same state of affairs.

Anyway, I digress again. I just have to sit and look at my bike parked. Hopefully by the time I get my aftermarket parts come through from the USA and UK, I'll have my paperwork ready for riding.
 
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