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I got a new rear tire recently and thought I would pass along some things I observed about it. But first I thought I would pass along my thoughts about the previous tire. I replaced the stock dunlop rear with a Pilot Road 3. I loved the dual compound 2CT I had on another bike so i tried the Road3. I was very disappointed in the center patch wear. I practically wore it out in the middle on a trip to houston on I10. I think i got about 6K out of it. I liked how it felt in turns. It just got too smooth too quick in the middle.

I ride the back roads of texas hillcountry. No gravel on purpose, just rough chip sealed type roads that seem to wear out rubber quickly. So I went looking for a dual sport type tire like on the big adventure bikes. The shops in austin will order you anything but stock very little. Seems like a big pirelli town, not that that is a bad thing.

For what ever reason I decided to try a Metzeler Tourance Next. Like all the other adventure tires it don't come in a 150-60x17. Closest is a 150-70x17. A little taller I thought but no big deal.

The tire showed up and wow. It seemed like it was a couple of inches taller (really just 1/2) but looked tall. Also it weighs a lot. The NEXT alone seemed to weigh as much as the PR3+rim together. Seriously! THis tire is meaty. Very stiff sidewall and very thick tread. Just what I was looking for to tackle the back roads.

It mounted up great. Looks great on the bike. In fact this is where I feel like I had an epiphany. The bike looks right with the taller tire. And I'm definitely rolling faster at the same RPM. Not sure how much so I referenced this Chart which says it might be 4% diff. So I got to thinking maybe japan engineers spec'd the bike for the 70 series tire but the production guys needed to use up more of their 60 series tires from other models.

I can definitely feel the additional unsprung weight the heavier tire adds. It makes the rear suspension feel kind of dead. Heavier thumps instead of little bumps. I think i would try to determine a tires weight the next time I'm comparing. Anyway, I'll be riding this tire for many years to come. I surely has 10 times the life of the PR3 in it by looking at the depth of the lugs.



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If you ever get a chance to run the Dunlop D16 front tire you'll love it. They say it was develop from a Superbike rain tire. I believe it too. It works everywhere.
 

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Just rode a LOT of kms of gnarly, rocky dirt roads in the Lillooet area of BC (I'll post a thread about it soon) over the last few days. LOVE the way my Tourance (NOT the NEXT) tires handled it all!
 

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I really love the scorpion trail on the rear/front. very confidence inspiring. But the rear is almost gone and I was thinking about the tourance. It's supposed to stick well and wear like iron. But having the rear feel dead is not appealing!
 

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from what i've read people love the regular tourance but not so much the Next.
I just ordered some shinko 705's which is just like the regular tourance for half the price (and probably half the lifespan)
 

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I used the Tourance on the KLR. Good wear and good handling. Have Pirelli Scorpion Trail on the KLRs now. Have Michelin PR4s on the Versys. No complaints.
 

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The 160/60-17 is only available only in Europe. (!?) Yes, I get that 80% of the bikes in the USA are designed in the 1960s, but why the "HELL" would Pirelli (Who owns Metzler... or maybe it's the other way around) hold back one of it's sizes? Even if it is for the 20% who own modern motorcycles.

Having said that the Metzler USA site shows that the 160/60-17 and two different 150/70-17s are available. But according to Revzilla via phone, the 160 is a "no go".
 

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When I said, "It makes the rear suspension feel kind of dead. Heavier thumps instead of little bumps." I was comparing to the Tourance to the PR3. Another way to say it might be that my a$$ could feel more precisely the lighter roughness of a road when the PR3 was on there. Alot of it, I'm sure is due to the fact that the PR3 was a banana peel and very flexible were as the Tourance is like a tractor tire. When I was in cycle gear I lifted my Tourance tire and compared it to a pirelli supersport and like I said above the tourance feels like the tire weighs double. Which was a commentary on unsprung weight and its effect on suspension performance.
 
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