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I joined because I'm interested in a Versys 300. I generally buy used bikes on Ebay. New is a lot harder. It seems the $3,799 prices on Cycle Trader don't include $1,500 in fees. What a rip.
 

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You will find lots of feedback here on the Versys-X 300.
The uncomfortable seat is the issue that seems to attract the most criticism.
Some find the gearing to be a bit too short.
Otherwise everyone is very positive about them. Small enough to throw about around town, physically big enough for the average guy, and still capable of covering some serious miles.
 

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I put a Russell on all my bikes, so that won't be an issue. I can get a Russell sport and not be raised up much. A 2" Rox riser will bring the bars back a little.

Will I need the anti-vibe Rox risers?

Moto Werks makes a 1 inch lowering dog bone if I need it.

I have an ST1100 that is too big for most of what I do. I also have an XT225 that I heve modified (cam, high compression piston, racing valve springs) to be a pretty good day tourer. Almost. It is pretty unstable at 70, and there is absolutely nothing left. A light weight bike is such a pleasure to ride. I think this Versys will do 85% of what I need done, with a stable ride at 70 and much better brakes then the XT. It weighs about 100 pounds more, but I don't think that will make that much difference.
 

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I put a Russell on all my bikes, so that won't be an issue. I can get a Russell sport and not be raised up much. A 2" Rox riser will bring the bars back a little.

Will I need the anti-vibe Rox risers?

Moto Werks makes a 1 inch lowering dog bone if I need it.

I have an ST1100 that is too big for most of what I do. I also have an XT225 that I heve modified (cam, high compression piston, racing valve springs) to be a pretty good day tourer. Almost. It is pretty unstable at 70, and there is absolutely nothing left. A light weight bike is such a pleasure to ride. I think this Versys will do 85% of what I need done, with a stable ride at 70 and much better brakes then the XT. It weighs about 100 pounds more, but I don't think that will make that much difference.
I also have a V-Strom and the Versys 300 seems much, much lighter than the specs state. When travelling at speed there is no comparison with a small dirt bike.
Much more comfortable, and more powerful - but it needs to be revved to come alive.
It is surprisingly quick on road and confidence inspiring on dirt roads.
 

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Cycle Trader is a great reference tool, but I haven't experienced 'hidden fees' very much. There are private Sellers and Dealers and they all have different pricing. I have even found a few Dealers that don't charge any set up fees. I guess if you see a price that looks too low, you'll need to contact the Seller to see if there's a "catch".
 

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I have heard a lot of people comment on the "uncomfortable seat" on the Versys 300. I am a new rider and have put 500 miles on now and so far have not felt the seat to be uncomfortable while riding. I wasn't sure when just sitting on it in the moto shop, but have found that while riding, the seat is plenty comfortable. Longest single ride so far was 95 miles.
 

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Cycle Trader is a great reference tool, but I haven't experienced 'hidden fees' very much. There are private Sellers and Dealers and they all have different pricing. I have even found a few Dealers that don't charge any set up fees. I guess if you see a price that looks too low, you'll need to contact the Seller to see if there's a "catch".
I experienced this with a Dealer in Las Vegas.. $3999 for Versys 300.. plus $1500 in freight, setup, doc, fees... no thanks.

I found a dealer here in SLC that had new '16 650 LT still in crate. fair price and no bs. i guess if its too good to be true.. its its not true!
 

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Just brought it home a couple of days ago.

Initial observations.

1. The windshield is better than I thought it would be. Already ordered the Madstad. It will be on next week.

2. The seat with my Moto-Skeeves is tolerable for a couple of hours between stops. It will have to do for the summer because the build date on my Russell is the week of August 20th. I may wear BOTH of my Moto-Skeeves.

3. This thing is a PITA to break in. Who in the world could ride this thing at 4,000 RPM? I kept it under 6 for the first 20-30 miles. After that, I varied the speed between 5 and 8, with only brief spurts to 8. An onlooker would have thought I was drunk the way I accelerated, then backed off. I made a brief burst to 75 mph and then backed off. It got there pretty quick. I'm only at 110 miles.

4. I asked the dealer to put the shock on the lowest level. Instead, he lowered the forks 1 inch and left the shock alone. I lowered the shock myself. It does pretty good like this. Since the forks are raised, I can't use the Rox anti-vibe riser. I had an old set of bar backs that I am using that so far work pretty good. I ordered a 1" lowering link from Motor Werke that I will probably need when my seat gets back from Russell.

5. I went around the bike tightening up the numerous loose fasteners. Does anyone know the torque spec for the engine fasteners? They say loosen, then tighten to spec.

6. Fairly vibey at this point, but I'm guessing it will smooth out in due time. I put foam grip puppies over the rubber grips.

So far I'm pretty impressed. It is much easier to ride than my ST1100. If this thing has the legs everyone says they have I'm sure I'll be happy.
 
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Just brought it home a couple of days ago.


3. This thing is a PITA to break in. Who in the world could ride this thing at 4,000 RPM? I kept it under 6 for the first 20-30 miles. After that, I varied the speed between 5 and 8, with only brief spurts to 8. An onlooker would have thought I was drunk the way I accelerated, then backed off. I made a brief burst to 75 mph and then backed off. It got there pretty quick. I'm only at 110 miles.

5. I went around the bike tightening up the numerous loose fasteners. Does anyone know the torque spec for the engine fasteners? They say loosen, then tighten to spec.

If this thing has the legs everyone says they have I'm sure I'll be happy.
We are mostly agreed that running in as per the book is impractical/impossible/detrimental.

Torque Secs.
Engine Bracket Nut 51 ft/lbs
Front Engine Mounting Nut 51 ft/lbs
Upper Engine Mounting Nut 51 ft/lbs
Lower Engine Mounting Nut 51 ft/lbs = 69N.m

Note- Follow the specified tightening sequence.

 

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Thanks! Mods, this would be a great sticky over on the 300 forum.
 

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I joined because I'm interested in a Versys 300. I generally buy used bikes on Ebay. New is a lot harder. It seems the $3,799 prices on Cycle Trader don't include $1,500 in fees. What a rip.
I also started out looking for a used bike, but decided that a new, prior model year Versys-X (2017) is priced low enough to go ahead with new. Great bike for the price, I think. Fortunately, I found a dealer who didn't throw in those extra fees.
 
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