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Went to the IMS Outdoors show for the first time. Found out about it by chance on Mosko Motos website. I'll be going every year now. Got to ride a TON of great bikes.

The IMS show here was $30 for a three day pass, unlimited riding. I didn't know demo days like this existed. The last ad I saw for a demo was at an ADV show out in South Dakotah and the show was expensive and the demo rides were even more.

There were tons of bikes from Indian, Harley, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Triumph and Suzuki. Each was definitely a different rider experience from start to finish, some better than others. Indian, Harley and Triumph had me fill out a waiver and gave me a rider pass for the weekend. Any of these vendors I could just walk up to the booth, point at what I wanted to ride and take off.

Kawi, Yamaha and Suzuki on the other hand were not near as fun. They were all group led rides that rarely gave a chance to get out of 2nd gear on most bikes. They all required a scheduled appointment and I had to be at the booth 15 min before the ride for a safety briefing where they tell you allllll the things you are not allowed to do. Kawasaki made you take a breathalyzer before each ride. Then you're stuck in a group of 10 people that may or may not know how to ride. I rode with Kawi twice and Yamaha once, that was enough more me. It sucked because there were a much of bikes from those manufacturers I wanted to ride but I could ride one bike with these guys in the same time I can make 2 or 3 runs with Triumph or Harley. I rode every Triumph, most of them 2-3 times, and then a few Harleys and Indians.

Out of all those bikes, what hit me most was how much I like my Gen 1 650. There were maybe 2-3 bikes that I would have considered letting my Versys go for, but nothing similar to it. I'd probably go with a Triumph Street Triple, Speed Twin, Tiger 900 or new Versys 1000. Other than that, I'd rather have my bike. There were definitely faster bikes, better bikes off road, better looking bikes, more power, more torque etc etc etc. But I feel like for the type of riding I enjoy (long trips, some dirt roads), I think the Versys 650 hits the sweet spot in all categories.

Also got my first experience on big baggers. The Indian Challenger I rode was well balanced and ultra comfortable. I rode a Harley-Davidson Ultra Limited as well.... drives like a big boat. Did not like.

Also the Rocket 3 GT. Super fun.

Anyways, I've never been to an event like this and had no idea anything like this existed. Hopefully someone else can see this and find one near them.





I'm just now learning to edit video, lemme know what you think.
 

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Great write up and thanks for sharing. I attended the show in the Chicagoland area this summer and really found it helpful. Had an opportunity to speak to various manufacturers representatives. Learned a lot about their brands, specific models and the industry in general. I will definitely be going back next year.

Woops, almost forgot, nice job on the video!
 

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Nice write up. I'm also stuck on my 1st gen V650.

Regarding the video: Lose the repetitious, monotonous music soundtrack, it detracts from the video. I never have figured why many motorcycle videos have to insert either heavy metal guitar, new age or other (c)rap, when the motorcycles are the soundtrack.
You did ask for input!
 

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IMS shows moved to outdoor events this year. I made it to the one in Carlisle PA. The test rides were the best part. I hope they keep them outside just for that. Very few venders as compared to the indoor shows. A lot of that could be supply chain issues. Carlisle had a lot of room to add additional venders.
 

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Nice write up. I'm also stuck on my 1st gen V650.

Regarding the video: Lose the repetitious, monotonous music soundtrack, it detracts from the video. I never have figured why many motorcycle videos have to insert either heavy metal guitar, new age or other (c)rap, when the motorcycles are the soundtrack.
You did ask for input!
Yeah I need a better way to record the sound of the bike. I have a few tricks I'm gonna try next time. This video was mostly wind noise.
 

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IMS shows moved to outdoor events this year. I made it to the one in Carlisle PA. The test rides were the best part. I hope they keep them outside just for that. Very few venders as compared to the indoor shows. A lot of that could be supply chain issues. Carlisle had a lot of room to add additional venders.

Did they not have test rides set up when the event was indoors? I talked to one guy who said they are going to try an indoor/outdoor deal next year. If it weren't for the test rides there wouldn't have been much to do, only about a dozen vendors total. I'm kinda surprised it's not a bigger event.
 

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Great video. To reduce wind noise, a GoPro sponge foam is great if you use GoPro for video.

I have this for my GoPro 5 and it is excellent to reduce a 90% of wind noise

If only there were such test drives in my country. If there is a test drive at all, it will be 1 model of a motorcycle and that's it. And that very rarely happens. I for Versys could only read reviews and watch videos (I did this 3 months before I decided to buy the Versys 650) and sit on the motorcycle in the saloon. Nowhere in the state could I find a test drive to try out the Versys 650 before buying
 

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The indoor one was in downtown Washington DC. Zero did indoor beginner rides that started you out on an electric bicycle then one of their bikes. The indoor events are in the cities to draw a large crowd to the shows. All the manufactures have the whole line up to sit on and look at along with many different accessory vendors, tour company's ect. It took a couple of hours just to walk around and longer if you spent any time going back and forth to compare different models. At Americade in Lake George NY the venders and test ride were in different areas with separate fees to get into each areas. The only bike display was in the test ride area.

Did they serve alcohol at the event? I don’t drink in public, but on principle I’m not taking a breathalyzer unless I’m being accused of driving under the influence. I guess I would not have been riding any Kawasaki bikes.
Yes they did serve alcohol at the Carlisle PA event. I thought is was funny that they tested until I saw the beer stand. Its their bike so their rules. The different makes had different gear requirements also. We got to ride a Goldwing DCT, Versys1000 and an Indian bagger. I couldn't get the Indian full touring rig off the side stand. It was too heavy. We had put our gear away or we would have tried the HD pan am, and a Zero also.
 

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Yes they did serve alcohol at the Carlisle PA event. I thought is was funny that they tested until I saw the beer stand. Its their bike so their rules. The different makes had different gear requirements also. We got to ride a Goldwing DCT, Versys1000 and an Indian bagger. I couldn't get the Indian full touring rig off the side stand. It was too heavy. We had put our gear away or we would have tried the HD pan am, and a Zero also.
And if no one chose to ride their bikes, they would have got the message.
I could see if they suspected someone of being intoxicated. People are too easily giving up their freedom today.
Watch some videos of what life is like in Australia these days.
They can pull you over without cause and give you a breathalyzer test. They come to your home because of what you post on social media.
 

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Did they serve alcohol at the event? I don’t drink in public, but on principle I’m not taking a breathalyzer unless I’m being accused of driving under the influence. I guess I would not have been riding any Kawasaki bikes.
they did but I didn’t really see anyone drinking. I totally understand the breathalyzer, but it was a little annoying at 9:00 AM lol
 

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The indoor one was in downtown Washington DC. Zero did indoor beginner rides that started you out on an electric bicycle then one of their bikes. The indoor events are in the cities to draw a large crowd to the shows. All the manufactures have the whole line up to sit on and look at along with many different accessory vendors, tour company's ect. It took a couple of hours just to walk around and longer if you spent any time going back and forth to compare different models. At Americade in Lake George NY the venders and test ride were in different areas with separate fees to get into each areas. The only bike display was in the test ride area.



Yes they did serve alcohol at the Carlisle PA event. I thought is was funny that they tested until I saw the beer stand. Its their bike so their rules. The different makes had different gear requirements also. We got to ride a Goldwing DCT, Versys1000 and an Indian bagger. I couldn't get the Indian full touring rig off the side stand. It was too heavy. We had put our gear away or we would have tried the HD pan am, and a Zero also.
That Harley Ultra was awful. I could barely get it going. I almost dropped it getting out of the vendor area.
 

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they did but I didn’t really see anyone drinking. I totally understand the breathalyzer, but it was a little annoying at 9:00 AM lol
As a matter of principle I am not taking a breathalyzer to demo ride a motorcycle, nor will I be showing any vaccine passports even though I am vaccinated. People are way to easily giving up their freedoms. A breathalyzer is administered after suspecting some who is already driving might be under the influence.
Please do some research on socialist countries and ask yourself if you really want to live like that.
 

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As a matter of principle I am not taking a breathalyzer to demo ride a motorcycle... People are way to easily giving up their freedoms.
LOL. It's nothing to do with losing your freedom. It's not your motorcycle that you'd be test riding. It's someone else's. They have the freedom to put whatever constraints they want on lending it to you (which they do presumably for liability reasons).

Your freedom is not you deciding you can ride someone else's bike whenever you want under what conditions you want. Where your freedom comes into play is you are free to decide to take them up on their offer or not.
 

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LOL. It's nothing to do with losing your freedom. It's not your motorcycle that you'd be test riding. It's someone else's. They have the freedom to put whatever constraints they want on lending it to you (which they do presumably for liability reasons).

Your freedom is not you deciding you can ride someone else's bike whenever you want under what conditions you want. Where your freedom comes into play is you are free to decide to take them up on their offer or not.
Which is why I said I wouldn’t be riding. I never said they had to let me ride them. I guess innocent until proven guilty and administering a breathalyzer without just cause doesn’t play in this situation since it is a private company. I said I wasn’t giving up my freedoms, not saying others have to conform to my will.
I chose not to go through life having to prove I am not doing something illegal unless there is just cause to suspect I am doing something illegal.
 
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