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Pekes, my respect for commuting at dark o'clock, deer and other threats from wotsit in the dark. Ride safe.:thumb::thumb::thumb:
 

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Hey Fasteddie, what kind of gasoline are you burning, i.e; octane and ethanol content? Have you ever experimented with ethanol vs non-ethanol?

Curious - thanks.
I run WHATEVER is the cheapest, as long as it's 87 MINIMUM. As far as I'm aware - ethanol-free isn't generally available in BC, so I don't waste time looking for it.

My Gen 1 in AZ ['08 V650] gets 50+mpgUS,USUALLY! Again - running the cheapest gas available.

FWIW - I do not ride around w/ my engine "screaming" in a lower gear - I'm usually in 6th - but I 'know' HOW to shift, when necessary...>:)...!
 

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Hi again Fasteddie. So I gather your answer is 'no' - you've never experimented. Premium gas (91 octane) in my 'hood is 0% ethanol.

Also keep in mind you and I are talking different engines, different weights, different bikes and even different altitudes.

My quest is to understand maximum efficiency, for curiosity sake. I don't care about a couple of bucks at fill-up.

Admittedly I'm new to this bike - 4 mos now and 4,000kms. Getting up to highway speeds quickly, on a 300cc engine, means revving (sometimes) above 10,000. At least that's where the power is, and that's where the fun is. Similarly with passing quickly. And 60 mph on this 300 engine is 7,000+ rpms.

So I would have to throttle more aggressively just to keep up with you, and maybe only achieve simialar fuel efficiency in the process. This is quite literally different strokes for different folks.

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BTW, I bought this 26" plastic toolbox from Home Depot ($40) and attached to plate. It's pretty light (cheap) want to use it mostly for extra clothes to the office - easier than bungee-ing a gym bag. plus I can get a helmet in and lock it...too big maybe? I'm getting used to the look.
 

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My 2019 650 LT with only 225 miles ridden to & from work @ speed of 45 mph with several stop lights,I’m only getting 38 mpg.My Z900 does better on mpg.Im hoping once the 650 gets broken in it will get 45- 50mpg in town & in the Sixties mpg @ speeds of 65-75 mph on highway.
Is this possible?
 

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Modine... 38 is not right. when I'm checking mileage its on the highway for distance & usually packing my camping gear. the tubs are full, plus a drybag across the back, and me (250 pounds). I'm also usually running knobbie tires (TKC80). at 65-70mph cruise (more toward the 70ish side) with bursts of 75-85 for passing I get 46-47 pretty regularly. with the same rig I got almost 60 one time by keeping it at 55-60 as an experiment.... but I'can't drive that slow. yesterday (same rig) I got 51 mpg on a 200 mile run coming back from up north, but I suspect only because there was a lot of road construction & that slowed traffic. 2015 LT 650
 

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My 2019 650 LT with only 225 miles ridden to & from work @ speed of 45 mph with several stop lights,I’m only getting 38 mpg.My Z900 does better on mpg.Im hoping once the 650 gets broken in it will get 45- 50mpg in town & in the Sixties mpg @ speeds of 65-75 mph on highway.
Is this possible?

I also have a 2017 that I bought this year just hit 450 miles and I am also getting around 38 MPG. I have also done mainly commuting to work which the whole trip is 4 miles and 30MPH. I have taken it on the highway and had it at 65 MPh for about 200 miles of that 450.
 

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My 2019 650 LT with only 225 miles ridden to & from work @ speed of 45 mph with several stop lights,I’m only getting 38 mpg.My Z900 does better on mpg.Im hoping once the 650 gets broken in it will get 45- 50mpg in town & in the Sixties mpg @ speeds of 65-75 mph on highway.
Is this possible?
On a ride across Canada and back on my '15 V650LT (in '17) totaling 8,668 miles:

...total fuel used was 545.4L (87 octane regular) over 13,998 kms - (from filling just BEFORE to just AFTER the ride) - or 144 USG, giving an average of 25.67 kms/L. THAT computes to 72.4 mpgImperial (57.9 mpgUS), altho' I DID get better than 68.8 mpgUS at least for one tank (checked mileage EACH fill), as well as many others w/ BIG results....
 

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38 mpg is wrong. with 2 examples there must be some new failure mode on the '17. on my fully loaded '15 doing a solid 75ish the worst I ever got was still in the 40s. don't remember exactly, low 40s maybe, but I've never had a 30s mpg even with a headwind
 

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38 mpg is wrong. with 2 examples there must be some new failure mode on the '17. on my fully loaded '15 doing a solid 75ish the worst I ever got was still in the 40s. don't remember exactly, low 40s maybe, but I've never had a 30s mpg even with a headwind
I think you are overly quick to assume that low gas mileage of that sort is just "wrong." He's doing city commuting in 30mph zones. I do the same with my 2011 650 and my average mpg is in the low 30s. I've had fill-ups after more than half a tank of all city commuting showing as low as 25-26 mpg. I ride with side cases all the time (similar to the LT's) and I'm 6'3" 195 lbs, fwiw. I used to be concerned about my mileage being low, but I don't think it's a sign that anything is necessarily wrong.

On long rides, for reference, I get 50+ mpg depending on how much freeway vs twisty roads I'm riding. In addition to full side cases, I almost always have a pack on the back for backpack camping on those trips. I prefer scenic routes over freeway riding, so I don't spend a lot of time cruising at 55+. If I did, I think I could get 60+ mpg, especially if less loaded.
 

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Had a "spirited" 209 km (130 mile) ride yesterday. Gassed up w/ 8.8L for 234 kms (26.6 km/L; 75 mpgIMPERIAL; 60 mpgUS), and that's w/ a '15 V650 LT carrying both bags, c/w "junk" inside them....
 

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I'm upset. The guys at the motorcycle shop said that this Versys-X 300 would get 60mpg. How *dare* they lie to me!

BTW, I rarely am below 6,000 RPM, and I'm usually lane splitting in rush hour traffic (i.e., 25mph in 3rd gear between lanes of traffic moving between 5mph and 15mph). It ain't because I baby my Weesys!
 

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