I just got a new 650, and it is front diving too much. There is the spring preload and damping adjustments in the front. What have you found as the best setting?
this guy is not right. the rear setting is for rebound spring preload, not for compression.This is how I adjust my front and rear suspension.
Weight limit of Versys 650 2018 model is 210 kg. (In manual: Weight of rider, passenger, baggage, and accessories must not exceed 210 kg - 463lb) I have 105 kg + all gear on me and on motorbike is about 130 kg.
Rebound I set on 1.5-2 full turn (I can always adjust that in ride depend what kind or road are, bad or good.). For spring action I use 1 full turn is 10 kg. I make 13 turns. For rear sprocket I use same way, every click is 8.75 kg, I use 16 clicks.
Felling on motorbike are much better than stock settings.
This is a ~6" suspension. If you come from a sport or touring bike with ~4-5", it's normal that you feel it's diving.
thanks! I think I will live with the front softer springs; just braking more gently. I spent so much money on my Versys 1000 to upgrade the springs, and I am not sure if am going to invest so much in the 650. maybe in the future. the fact is that it is front-diving too much!!! I know that spring preload will not change itThis is a ~6" suspension. If you come from a sport or touring bike with ~4-5", it's normal that you feel it's diving.
You'll get used to it, rest assured.
You can't change that diving unless you change the springs (and you shouldn't unless you want to defeat the benefit of a longer suspension). These spring are fine and they are hard to bottom out.
Braking is a slow move and the bike doesn't have compression damping adjustment. Even if it had, it would not help unless it is way too hard for the normal riding.
Preload only changes the static height; it will still dive as much but you end a bit higher. The risk is to put too much preload and then forks top out and the wheel goes airborne over dips in road, dangerously loosing traction in turns...
Your choices are to accept it, sell it, or change springs.
I was shocked, going from a ninja 650 to the versys 650, out of the dealer's parking lot. Then the smoothness of the ride took over real fast and I loved it within a few weeks, maybe even days (that was 4 years ago, can't recall too well). I recon it still dives today, but that's all predictable now.well, excessive front-diving is true right now. may I ask if your experience is different?
I use that way to adjust front and rear suspension by using my kilograms and equipment which I bring with me.and that guy does not know what he is talking about. I lived in India for many years, and he is just ignorant. the front suspension is just too soft; only a harder spring rate can remedy it. higher compression on the left leg spring preload does not help much, and damping on the left leg serves an entirely different purpose...
Getting the proper spring rate for your weight would be the first step, then you can also 'fine tune' your damping with higher or lower viscosity fork oil. Lighter oil will flow freer and heavier oil will be progressively more restrictive as you go up in viscosity. This is a common adjustment for bikes with no external compression adjustment.
You haven't mentioned your weight. Also, how was the bike set up when you bought it? I presume it was the stock settings at front and rear - Front preload 6.5 IN, front damping 2.5 out, Rear 1 click IN.
both damping are affected because it resists flowing in either direction.higher viscosity fork fluid, but does it affect the compression or only the damping?