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Hello everyone!

So yesterday, my father and I tackled the rear fender delete on my 09' 650. A bit more involved than I had originally anticipated, but I think once I get a few loose ends fixed, it will be great!. I purchased an ebay kit to do it... Ebay Delete Kit . We could not get the lights to work. It came with a regulator of sorts, and we were able to get it to blink, but not able to get the lights to work coming from the existing wiring. They worked when hooked directly to the battery, but couldn't make any progress at all getting them to work on the back of the bike. Any ideas?

Also, what can I do to fix the ugly wires coming off the stock lights? I can't abide that. Hideous. Ditto for the bolts/mounting hardware under the seat. What would you guys recommend? Pics of the project so far: Rear Fender Delete

Thanks everyone!
 

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You need to post a wiring diagram or instructions included with the kit. Original wiring has a common ground to the tail light , plate light and brake light. Brake gets a switched positive , signal lights are in parallel with the front , left and right signal.
 
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At the very least you could use model paint to cover the bright steel colored bolts to flat or gloss black. You could also replace them with shorter ones that don't stick down so far. Use wiring protective sleeves to cover and protect the wiring. Example look at a computer power supply for examples. They can be had in many colors.
 

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You need to post a wiring diagram or instructions included with the kit. Original wiring has a common ground to the tail light , plate light and brake light. Brake gets a switched positive , signal lights are in parallel with the front , left and right signal.
Unfortunately no instructions were given with the set. We just assumed it would be pretty straight forward, but apparently not. If I were to take some detailed photographs, do you think that would possibly help you? Keep in mind that I am completely novice with wiring, I've never done it and know next to nothing about it. Hence the reason my father was brought in to help on it. However, he's now a 4 hour drive away.

What I don't understand, is that the lights worked fine when hooked directly to power source (battery). However, when hooked to the original wiring for the turn signal.. I got squat. There was power being transmitted, because the "regulator" that they sent me flashed in unison with the turn signal. Possibly a bad output on it? I am so lost.
 

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At the very least you could use model paint to cover the bright steel colored bolts to flat or gloss black. You could also replace them with shorter ones that don't stick down so far. Use wiring protective sleeves to cover and protect the wiring. Example look at a computer power supply for examples. They can be had ne many colors.
What I think I may do, is if I have to stick with these original lights... I will purchase two spools of wire in different colors, and rewire them to be longer, so that I can route them up the center so they aren't seen. I will also put them in a heat shrink wrap.

As for the bolts.. I think you might be right about the model paint. However, I was wondering if there might be a way to fashion an insert of sorts to go on the underside of the tail section to cover that stuff and make it flat. Hmmm.
 

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That module, does it have a circuit diagram on it? Since this is not a canbus motorcycle , chances are good that the tail light / license plate light , wire also needs to go to the positive power input. Had the same thing on the Admore lighting module.
 

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At the very least , post the colours of the wires OEM and what they connect to. Make sure those with tracers , the dominate colour and tracer colour . Be easier if you have a circuit drawing on the module. I could give you a pin out with that
 

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That module, does it have a circuit diagram on it? Since this is not a canbus motorcycle , chances are good that the tail light / license plate light , wire also needs to go to the positive power input. Had the same thing on the Admore lighting module.
I don't have it with me as I'm at work, but am I understanding you correctly? You are saying I may need to splice in the power from the brake light into each turn signal? (on the positive side)
 

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No, the tail light may need to go to two wires, tail and power input to the module. Without the cct drawing it is a guess at best. So take a close up of the module and post it.
 

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Ok, it might be tomorrow morning before I'm able to post, but I'll get to it asap. Thanks!
 

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No, the tail light may need to go to two wires, tail and power input to the module. Without the cct drawing it is a guess at best. So take a close up of the module and post it.
Hi there! Really sorry that it took me so long, but I finally got my shit together and got you some pictures. I really hope that it helps you see what I'm saying. So again, lights work fine when hooked directly to battery, but I get nothing when hooked to the turn signal wiring directly, or through the little box they sent with it. The box does flash when hooked to the turn signal lights, so I know it is getting power. However, the turn signals themselves still don't work when hooked up through it.

Thanks for any help you an provide!

Also, please remember that I am a complete and utter moron when it comes to wiring. I am genuinely like a 3 year old child. Beyond matching color to color, I'm lost. So please be gentle. lol. Thank you again, please let me know if I owe you anything.
 

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Hi there! Really sorry that it took me so long, but I finally got my shit together and got you some pictures. I really hope that it helps you see what I'm saying. So again, lights work fine when hooked directly to battery, but I get nothing when hooked to the turn signal wiring directly, or through the little box they sent with it. The box does flash when hooked to the turn signal lights, so I know it is getting power. However, the turn signals themselves still don't work when hooked up through it.

Thanks for any help you an provide!

Also, please remember that I am a complete and utter moron when it comes to wiring. I am genuinely like a 3 year old child. Beyond matching color to color, I'm lost. So please be gentle. lol. Thank you again, please let me know if I owe you anything.
Without a photo of the little box or any instructions provided, I can't help.I asked that in post #9
 

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G......it, I meant to post the link. Thats the whole reason I made the post. lol. Here it is:

No help without that module wiring. Or even the part number source where you bought it. You have a wiring mess. I can give you colour of wires for Kawasaki end but only once I have that module info. Those signals are very simple , polarity sensitive.
 

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No help without that module wiring. Or even the part number source where you bought it. You have a wiring mess. I can give you colour of wires for Kawasaki end but only once I have that module info. Those signals are very simple , polarity sensitive.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by module info. The only information I have as far as vendor or source is the Ebay link from the original post above. I have send a DM to the seller asking for more information or a wiring diagram if possible. I am so lost with all of this. The previous owner also has some type of connector hooked to the battery that I'm unfamiliar with and will be asking about soon. If I don't find out I'll post a picture of it as well and see if you have any clue.

Thank you for your help. Please understand that I'm not a moron, I'm just inexperienced with wiring and don't really have a solid fundamental understanding of how everything works electrically on the bike.
 

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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by module info. The only information I have as far as vendor or source is the Ebay link from the original post above. I have send a DM to the seller asking for more information or a wiring diagram if possible. I am so lost with all of this. The previous owner also has some type of connector hooked to the battery that I'm unfamiliar with and will be asking about soon. If I don't find out I'll post a picture of it as well and see if you have any clue.

Thank you for your help. Please understand that I'm not a moron, I'm just inexperienced with wiring and don't really have a solid fundamental understanding of how everything works electrically on the bike.
I hear you. If i had a closeup of the module showing the wires connected as is, take as many as possible. I might be able to figure it out.
 

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No help without that module wiring. Or even the part number source where you bought it. You have a wiring mess. I can give you colour of wires for Kawasaki end but only once I have that module info. Those signals are very simple , polarity sensitive.
On the front, there is the text "5050 3SMD". Here is the Google search of that. It seems to be an LED controller? Or maybe just saying what the type is? I really don't know.
 

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something you may be missing, what have you done in regards to the front signal lights? Also what are you using for a signal light flasher, the OEM ?
 
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