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Just had a visit with a friend who's a retired policeman from Edmonton, and we got talking about some of the times when the soldiers there were in fights with local hoods. The soldiers were, variously, the Canadian Airborne Regt, the PPCLI, and the Van Doos. When the calls came in, there was always a reason to NOT arrive for 30 minutes or so, at which time the hoods had learned a "life lesson" or two!
 

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living in columbus ga my whole life, next to fort benning, ga.... we would have the opposite experience.

Probably because Ft. Benning is the largest base in the US for new army recruits so we always got the roid'd up douches that wanted to start fights at bars and impregnate everything that walked. The whole time I lived there, you had police for the civilians and MP's to courtmarshal the GI's and they would basically travel together because the instances where so plentiful.

I am sure the marines are more refined, and a lot less annoying.
 

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living in columbus ga my whole life, next to fort benning, ga.... we would have the opposite experience.

Probably because Ft. Benning is the largest base in the US for new army recruits so we always got the roid'd up douches that wanted to start fights at bars and impregnate everything that walked. The whole time I lived there, you had police for the civilians and MP's to courtmarshal the GI's and they would basically travel together because the instances where so plentiful.

I am sure the marines are more refined, and a lot less annoying.
What does "roid'd" up mean?

Should I remind that Benning trains 120,000 Troops a year? What did you see? One or two fight a month? a week? or maybe a year? Any "FORT TOWN" sees the same issues ...

I spent 2 years at Benning with several very good soldiers to come out of there ... By the way, the size you get is not from roids, it's the grueling PT you do from sun up until sun down that makes you bigger. If you can stand anywhere between a 2 and 5 mile run at 4am, an hour of superset PT and roughly 1,000 to 1,500 push-ups a day, along with learning how to become a soldier in mind, body and technical training, on 3 to 5 hours of sleep average, I would not judge them as you do. Maybe a few make it look bad for the rest, but the rest would have stepped-up as the Marines did given the same circumstances. Steroids? in boot camp? please.

Our COUNTRY has had it's share of "impregnating" ... Look at the city of Bangkok ... Goes with the territory unfortunately ... Military was there, did that, (Marines, ARMY) now our civilians are carrying it on ... Branch has ZERO to do with it ... Those "douches" protect you day and night, and would give their life for any american at the drop of a hat ... Don't forget that that's what motivates them at BENNING or anywhere else ... Protecting YOU
 

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What does "roid'd" up mean?

Should I remind that Benning trains 120,000 Troops a year? What did you see? One or two fight a month? a week? or maybe a year? Any "FORT TOWN" sees the same issues ...

I spent 2 years at Benning with several very good soldiers to come out of there ... By the way, the size you get is not from roids, it's the grueling PT you do from sun up until sun down that makes you bigger. If you can stand anywhere between a 2 and 5 mile run at 4am, an hour of superset PT and roughly 1,000 to 1,500 push-ups a day, along with learning how to become a soldier in mind, body and technical training, on 3 to 5 hours of sleep average, I would not judge them as you do. Maybe a few make it look bad for the rest, but the rest would have stepped-up as the Marines did given the same circumstances. Steroids? in boot camp? please.

Our COUNTRY has had it's share of "impregnating" ... Look at the city of Bangkok ... Goes with the territory unfortunately ... Military was there, did that, (Marines, ARMY) now our civilians are carrying it on ... Branch has ZERO to do with it ... Those "douches" protect you day and night, and would give their life for any american at the drop of a hat ... Don't forget that that's what motivates them at BENNING or anywhere else ... Protecting YOU
Thanks for spending 2 years in a town that I grew up in a lived in for 25.

Your opinion is a very biased one because you were inside the base. You obviously don't know about the things that go on outside the base, ie. rapes cause by E1's, assualts and batteries by E1's, robberies by E1's.
My overall point was that, like you stated, Ft. Benning brings in a crap ton of newbies (E1's) and they have not been through basic yet. Those 17 yr old guys are not someone that I would let my daughter go on a date with, lets just put it that way. Now when they have gone through basic and learned discipline, thats different, but that wasnt my point.

Don't be so proud of yourself to think that anyone else can't do PT. I used to take a boyscout group out the rangers PT course and every single one of those lil kids could do the courses. This isnt a jackoff contest, calm down. :dontcare:

btw- capitalizing key words just makes people think that you are probably related to Glen Beck and watch Fox news and you feed off of the same BS that they use.

I am going to resist all the incorrect things you just blasted off, and let this thread stay on track.
 

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2 years has nothing to do with it ... You blasted the branch of the ARMY because you lived in Columbus, GA. And you saw a portion of the recruits do mis-deeds. If you re-read your post, you surmised Marines were better mannered. My point in illustration, was that you shouldn't judge the whole branch because of some misguided E1's as you put it. I don't disagree with you, but the fact you say ARMY douches at Benning ...

Have you spent time in the Military? If you did, you would not compare Boy Scouts to Army Infantry Trained Soldiers. This shows your ignorance. You down-play the Fort, and you down play the training. This is obvious you have not experienced anything but the bad apples that you speak of.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to defend my brothers if someone spouts off the things you have ... I spent 10 yrs in ARMY Infantry
 

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Maybe your military training didnt teach you how to have an open mind and let other people have differing opinions.

What i said was "Probably because Ft. Benning is the largest base in the US for new army recruits so we always got the roid'd up douches that wanted to start fights at bars and impregnate everything that walked."

So lets go on a 3rd grade reading lesson:
the 1st statement is that Ft. Benning is the largest US Army base.
the 2nd statement was that because of this, we (columbus) encountered a lot of douchy roid'd up honry new recruits

No where in that statement did I say that the entire branch of the US Army is made up of douches and/or bad guys.

That would be like disecting "i encountered a lot of very questionable people because I live right next to a prison" and getting... "i think everyone in prison is a horrible person"

What I did encounter while living there for so long was people like you, that were so eager to fight rather then listen, that they got themselves in trouble.

Let me paint a picture for others, so they can imagine what it was like:
  • Go to a local coffee shop, there is a table full of rangers cussing for everyone there to here them.
  • Go to a movie, there are tons of E1's with under age girls.
  • Go to a club, you can not move in there because of all the GI's stairing holes through every girl that can breathe.
  • Go to a bar, some GI just started another fight and the MP's have to take him back to base again.
  • Go to a concert, one GI gets pushed and calls his 15 buddies to go beat the **** out of one kid.
  • Read the newspaper, another one of your friends was statutory raped by an E1.
  • Go down to victory drive (where Ft.Benning's front gate is) and it is littered with strip clubs and violence
granted, i did make friends with tons of enlisted men and women. They were all very dignified people that held respect for one another above all else.
Those are not the people that we are talking about though.

just so you know: I do appreciate your 10 yrs of service
 

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I appreciate the clarification. But your post as written came off cavalier and did exactly what you said you didn't mean. Cool were good there. This can get into a moral discussion over youngsters in military. I was an E1 and went to benning in 87 when I was 17. I was within the age group you talk about. But I am from another generation. We were actually laid hands on and taught lessons while I was in. (meaning they laid hands on us and used other methods with uniform parts to strike us, and used the hand to hand combat lesson to teach us one on one) other than their fists lol. The kids now get time out chits. I take a lot of pride in that time. When I was there E1s were not allowed passes off post.maybe things have changed. Obviously military culture is not as glorious as media or govt would like people to believe. That's where the moral discussion gets into that I would rather not indulge. I apologize for the riff Raff you have experienced. It is not my recollection of benning.
 

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I think BAMF should have dezertv over for a good cup of Lilac Tea and you two could discuss your cultural differences and find some common ground. Oh, I forgot you both like Versys cycles.
 

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Hey Bicyclebob, I sure got a hoot out of the posted clipping and I want to thank you for sharing it with us. :thumb:

On a side note, I need to remind myself from time to time that there is way too much crap going on in the world and my bad attitude (if I woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day) doesn't need to make this crazy world worse. Just a suggestion...
 

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Army recruits behaving badly, Marines beating up people (that deserve it). I can only wonder what can be said about sailors.

That's why I joined the Air Force.
 
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