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So the cheap soft cases have done their job, got me through while I got outfitted on more important things like riding gear and helmet. But now it's time to install some hard cases. Do any of you have any recommendations? Basically I'm trying to do it where I get something that is waterproof and affordable. So far the cheapest I can find considering I need mounting brackets and cases is to either get the Kawasaki ones for $435, or it looks like I can do Shad brackets and Shad cases for about $410. Anything else out there that's good and cheaper than that?
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If you are planning on a lot of off road riding hard cases are not the way to go unless you are an expert rider. They can damage you quickly in a wreck.

What I did when choosing expensive hard cases was telling myself that these will go on whatever bike I replace this bike with. My GIVI V35 side cases were bought for my Ninja 650, moved to the Versys 650, and then moved to the FZ-07. I owned them for 10 years and 50,000 miles.

So, make your choice of bags based on what you really want them for, knowing that they can move to other bikes with a purchase of the correct mounting brackets.
 

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Good advice, thanks! The versys will see 99% road miles, kept the k-pipe as the yard/trail bike :)

I think I will get a good name brand set for exactly the reason you listed, when I upgrade bikes all I'll need to do is get a new mounting bracket. Thinking the Shad 3P system is good, but need to look closer at the Givis too, that's the brand of my crash bars and they fit perfectly.

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I like the Shad 23 cases and you can get them on a extremely large online retailers site right now for ~$308, cases and brackets.
 

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Kappa is a good brand to check out. Givi low prices brand with nearly identical products. Use monolock mounting system.

Shad has some good products but pour reputation for support in U.S.
 

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I went with the Shad side cases for a couple of reasons. 1st, they look like they were made for the bike, and they are quick attach/detach. 2nd, once mounted they are level with the rear passenger portion of the seat allowing you to carry extremely large loads across both the side cases and the seat. For instance I have the Givi top case for personal items, but if I go camping, I can pack all my camping gear in a large duffel and strap it across the back. 3rd, best value for the price.
 

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I will say look for Kappa /Givi, Shad are beautiful desing of course, but the shape affect to have less space disponible.
too I will say for buy it look at seccond hand ones.

for example. on spain the support cost 120€, the givi 21 bags cost: 180€. so I find it at seccond hand: 50€ the support and 50€ the E21N bags.
 

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I had many years of great use from a pair of E21 Givi cases. The updated model is the 22L. Great size, top loading, Givi high quality and probably the best bang for your buck at about $250 for the pair (plus brackets)
 

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I went with the Shad side cases for a couple of reasons. 1st, they look like they were made for the bike, and they are quick attach/detach. 2nd, once mounted they are level with the rear passenger portion of the seat allowing you to carry extremely large loads across both the side cases and the seat. For instance I have the Givi top case for personal items, but if I go camping, I can pack all my camping gear in a large duffel and strap it across the back. 3rd, best value for the price.
Those do look good on that bike. If I were considering them I would have to look at how many different bikes they make brackets for.
 

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Those do look good on that bike. If I were considering them I would have to look at how many different bikes they make brackets for.
Thats a definite good idea, I didnt check to see what other bikes they made the mounting brackets for, before I purchased the Shads a couple of years ago. They didnt fit my Moto Guzzi Griso when I had it, and they dont make mounting brackets for the Can Am Ryker. I'm pretty good at making things work, or coming up with solutions, but the way the Shad cases are mounted, and are locked into the brackets, it would be difficult for me to try and replicate those pieces. For the Ryker, I took the semi rigid saddlebags that I originally purchased for the X-300, made some supports and put them on the Ryker Rally. I think they look better on the Ryker than they did on the X-300.

Originally on the X-300.


Now on the Ryker Rally.
 

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Yesterday my right hand side case was not as hard as the bollard at a local market. Bit of a tight squeeze.
 

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I had huge steel locking luggage on my last bike and almost never used it. I guess my recommendation would be to ask yourself truly if you'll actually use it, if the answer is "yes on road trips and while camping" and you do those things half a dozen times a year I'd say stick with soft bags... Cheaper, lighter, easily removed for the 95 percent of time you don't need them, and they won't shatter or dent when you drop the bike. It was kind of nice to have a "safe-ish" place to put my jacket I guess? Wasn't worth toting 40 lbs of weight around for that alone though. They were awesome for camping though...
 

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Ive been looking for an alternative to the stock side cases on my '18 VX300. Initially they would be ok. SO wrong ! The shape just isn't working for me. Last weekend I stumbled on something at Academy Sports (Sports Academy ?) in the gun section that looked like it would fit the job. It was a shooters box, found with the plastic military ammo box copies, made by Plano. About the same height, a little shorter, and about two inches wider. I got two. Off to HomeDepot. 3ft of thin aluminum angle, some washers and Allen head bolts and nylok nuts. Only had to craft some very simple (hardest part was finding my hack saw) mount adapters for the top, bottom was simpler and easier to access. After the first side was installed I thought it could be sturdier and made the other side adapters about twice as long. Firmed things up nicely. Everything needs to be painted, currently olive drab but look good. No mods to bike needed at all. So far they've been working out great. Stayed dry through recent serious weather (Texas OMG !) I don't think they are up to the Gobi Desert, but neither am I. Total cost $29 each plus some hardware .. about $65-70
 

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I'm going to buy these and mount them on quick detach plates. Nelson-Rigg SE-3050-BLK

Anything that is strong enough to take the weight of the bike in repeated falls and not destroy itself is going to cost 25% of the purchase price of the bike and be heavy. Hard cases dent, lids fall off, they require internal bags to be waterproof most of the time, they are expensive, they are heavy, if someone is bold enough to try to cut open a hardy softbag and steal your stuff they'll be just as keen to give your $750 a piece touratechs a firm kick and run as well. Soft bags are like having airbags on the bike during falls, they are cheaper, and waterproof, they can be repaired with gaffer tape or duct tape in a pinch, they also don't require a proprietary $500 racking system. Anything plastic isn't worth looking at in my opinion, I also hated my tusk panniers that I had on my last bike, I think if you want a set of hard panniers that are going to be worth the "questionable upgrade" from soft bags you are going to be looking at spending $800+ easy. Bags like the shad or stock kawasaki luggage could easily be broken into by a firm kick or a screw driver or even a set of tin snips maybe a pocket knife and if not for security why else get them. Touratechs sure do look awesome I'll give them that much.
 

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I also remember I was dragging my feet flat footed on the road stretching my legs once on a long trip and a rock kicked my boot up the slightest bit, my ankle backed into the sharp edge on the front of the tusk pannier and the road pulled my toe under the bag scared the living sh** out me, luckily I reacted "properly" somehow and steered out of it with nothing more than a sprained ankle could of been bad wouldn't of happened with soft bags.
 

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i use hard side cases only if riding with a girlfriend. side bags are dangerous as you get as wide a car. better, a soft bag on the rear seat, or semi-hard bag. sw-motech has plenty of those. i do have rear box, hepco becker, but this is just for convenience; one can put all the rain gear and other things in it. even though, it is not recommended to have weight behind the rear wheel, I don't care, and it does not bother me.
 

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I went with the Shad side cases for a couple of reasons. 1st, they look like they were made for the bike, and they are quick attach/detach. 2nd, once mounted they are level with the rear passenger portion of the seat allowing you to carry extremely large loads across both the side cases and the seat. For instance I have the Givi top case for personal items, but if I go camping, I can pack all my camping gear in a large duffel and strap it across the back. 3rd, best value for the price.
my 2018 came with shads when I bought them and they are very durable
 
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