FZ07 owner here thinking of the X-300 - test ride anyone? - Kawasaki Versys Forum
Versys-X 300 General Discussion Please post any 2017+ Kawasaki Versys-X 300 related topics that DO NOT fit into any of the other topics here.

 4Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 12:37 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
FZ07 owner here thinking of the X-300 - test ride anyone?

Hi all!
I've had (and love) my FZ-07 for a couple years now and done some crazy ass trips on it (cross country, camping, etc) - pretty much everything the FZ wasn't made for. I love the bike, it feels a little weird loaded up with my camping stuff and my backpacking bag but it still pulls like thunder. When I saw the X300 I was like damn this bike has everything I want however my dealer says that it'll be a terrible downgrade. Since I can't seem to get a test drive (i'm in the bay area) im wondering about the following:

1. Low speed suspension and comfort. The FZ suspension (I have aftermarket stuff) works awesomely above 90mph - at normal speeds my ass feels every single bump in the road. How is the X300 here? This is honestly my biggest biggest gripe
2. Vibration. My FZ cruises at 6000 rpm @ 85mph all day with minimal vibrations and can easily pull way way more if need be.
3. Power. The FZ is borderline dangerous here - curious how slow the X300 would be. I barely pull the throttle on the FZ anyways so not a speed junkie by any means but still its nice to have that
4. How will the X300 be with fully loaded saddle bags, a large givi case in the back and some added **** like tent+sleeping bag thrown on there? Anybody tried this?

I'll be willing to pay someone good money for a test ride - lets say $100? Alternatively we can switch and you can ride my modified FZ-07 I'm in the bay area (near oakland). Any takers?

Thanks!
frk2 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 03:13 AM
Super Moderator
 
Fastoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Ipoh.Perak.Malaysia
Posts: 6,393
[QUOTE=frk2;1400810]Hi all!
my dealer says that it'll be a terrible downgrade.
Yes ! he is right...and Why not a 650 Versys.?
Fastoman is offline  
post #3 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 06:53 AM
Member
 
crosshairs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 142
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by frk2 View Post
my dealer says that it'll be a terrible downgrade.

Your dealer is correct...you should be looking at nothing less than the Versys 650, and even that will feel a bit slow compared to your FZ07 ...but the Versys 650 will handle the duties you assign it much better than your FZ07
crosshairs is offline  
 
post #4 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 11:29 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Thanks guys. So here's the thing: unless the x300 is really slow I think I would care about the other stuff more. I hardly push my fz 07 since at half throttle it seems very unstable and at full it's basically wheelie time so unless the x 300 becomes a hazard (won't get to 80mph, impossible to pass cars on the highway, etc) I think I would be fine.

My primary use has become motorcycle camping for the fz anyways. I wanna be able to do some dirt.

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
frk2 is offline  
post #5 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 11:31 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Versys 650 is much heavier. Im trying to move towards lighter bikes. I'm okay with sacrificing power for some other awesomeness

I tried the 650. It was good but didn't "fit" as well as my fz or the 300. Light bikes like the 300 or the fz really get me going

I might decide to keep both bikes for different occasions

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Last edited by frk2; 06-23-2017 at 11:37 AM.
frk2 is offline  
post #6 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 12:00 PM
Member
 
twowheeladdict's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,124
Garage
I moved from the Versys 650 to the FZ07. I set it up for touring and it is a capable sport touring bike.

You will be disappointed with the x300 if you are going to load it up and expect to go fast for hours on end. It is not much lighter than the FZ07.

If you want to tour back roads and dirt roads, then maybe it will work for you. If you are 150 lbs or less, it might work for you.

Here is a link to my FZ07. http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ht-tourer.html

Hopefully Yamaha will bring the fj07 to the states on day.

My Versys Travels:


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
twowheeladdict is offline  
post #7 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheeladdict View Post
I moved from the Versys 650 to the FZ07. I set it up for touring and it is a capable sport touring bike.
Hmm I thought the same when I bought the FZ - I've added a givi case, a large madstat windscreen, Got a penske 8983 rear shock, Cartridge retrofits on the forks. Tried many seats but I can never make this thing comfortable. The problem is that the bike just feels a bit unstable and extremely uncomfortable. I can tell you the location of every tiny pothole and bump in ALL of california What suspension mods do you have? My ass/back hate anything over an hour riding on this thing and I'm only 37 and it good health/shape!

So what was the main reason behind your 650->FZ07 switch? I'm assuming the 650/300 handle air flow, comfort better in a light platform than the FZ. That clutch on the 300 seems like pure bliss!

The X300 feels MUCH lighter than the FZ fueled up. Dont get me wrong - I love the weight distro on the FZ, but the X300 honestly felt better and more comfortable. Hence I'm looking for a test ride!

Last edited by frk2; 06-23-2017 at 01:04 PM.
frk2 is offline  
post #8 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 01:08 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 282
Quote:
Originally Posted by frk2 View Post
Hmm I thought the same when I bought the FZ - I've added a givi case, a large madstat windscreen, Got a penske 8983 rear shock, Cartridge retrofits on the forks. Tried many seats but I can never make this thing comfortable. The problem is that the bike just feels a bit unstable and extremely uncomfortable. I can tell you the location of every tiny pothole and bump in ALL of california What suspension mods do you have? My ass/back hate anything over an hour riding on this thing and I'm only 37 and it good health/shape!

So what was the main reason behind your 650->FZ07 switch? I'm assuming the 650/300 handle air flow, comfort better in a light platform than the FZ. That clutch on the 300 seems like pure bliss!

The X300 feels MUCH lighter than the FZ fueled up. Dont get me wrong - I love the weight distro on the FZ, but the X300 honestly felt better and more comfortable. Hence I'm looking for a test ride!
Sounds like you need a KLR650 for what you are looking for.
Lurch71 is offline  
post #9 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 01:10 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurch71 View Post
Sounds like you need a KLR650 for what you are looking for.
Possibly - but that 35in seat height definitely does not work for me
frk2 is offline  
post #10 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 01:15 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 282
Do what I did, buy a second bike. I bought a 17 V1k..... 5 months later bought a 17 Concours. Got the best of both worlds.
Lurch71 is offline  
post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 01:24 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurch71 View Post
Do what I did, buy a second bike. I bought a 17 V1k..... 5 months later bought a 17 Concours. Got the best of both worlds.
Indeed - thats what Im thinking with the X300. But I wanna do a test ride first to make absolutely sure
frk2 is offline  
post #12 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 01:27 PM
Member
 
weljo2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Norwalk CA
Posts: 15,404
Garage
https://www.kawasaki.com/ShoppingTools/TestRide

2009 Blue Versys.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Sold
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Farkles...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Video Channel
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Photos...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


I'm not a Gynecologist. "But I'll Take A Look"

Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth...
Mike Tyson

"Ya'll can go to hell, I'm goin' to Texas!"...Davey Crockett
weljo2001 is online now  
post #13 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 01:37 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by weljo2001 View Post
Thanks - but ofcourse I already tried that no dealer within a 100 miles is willing to do test rides on these bikes.
frk2 is offline  
post #14 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 03:07 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 86
Garage
I've been researching similar things - I love my 650, but I want to be able to do some backwoods camping. Definitely look at the offroad and moto camping videos of any model you're considering. Some really surprising bikes (e.g. NC700x
) can be reasonable if all you're trying to do is get to a camp site. Then again, you're camping an FZ-07, so I'm preaching to the choir

I've learned that 'off-road' contains quite a few different types of riding and therefore needs/wants. Motocross, trail riding, adventure, even ice racing. Always try to figure out where a reviewer is coming from, because if somebody is evaluating a bike coming from a perspective that is not relevant to you, their review won't be useful. I've read the V300 getting slammed by dirt riders for being a pig, but next to your FZ it's lighter You seem to have a similar wish list to mine: capable on moderate off road, good under load, has highway power, relatively light (compared with 500lb+ adventure bikes, not compared to dirt bikes), cheap to own and operate.

The CRF250L Rally and the Versys 300 seem like the closest fits. Both can cruise at 70 and max out at 95+, are capable off road, have wind protection, and wouldn't kill me to pick up off the side of the road. I haven't seen many camping / under load videos for either of them, but there are some videos from Southeast Asia of the V crossing riverbeds and such. The biggest differences to me are the higher suspension travel on the CRF250L and the much larger gas tank on the Versys.

CRF250L Rally off road doing the most technical riding I'd ever care to try:
Versys X 300 hitting some beat up trails:
Versys X 300 on more off road:

It looks like you're going to do some trade offs no matter what you pick - torque, max speed, load capability/suspension, wind protection, weight, cost. A lot of the off-road reviews seem to think Husqvarna and KTM as the gold standards, but they're probably over engineered for most camping trips. Also look at Youtube videos of moto camping and people's setups. I've seen a lot of people doing pretty amazing things on the TW200, e.g.
. The TW200 won't do the speeds you need (maxes at 65), but it's an awesome little donkey.

After watching people in SE Asia using damned near any motorcycle to do damned near anything, I think people in the US are too fussy about performance. Where there's a will, there's a way, and you get that. It sounds like you'd be fine with a Versys 300. Best of luck!
aemacleod is offline  
post #15 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 03:18 PM
Member
 
weljo2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Norwalk CA
Posts: 15,404
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by frk2 View Post
Thanks - but ofcourse I already tried that no dealer within a 100 miles is willing to do test rides on these bikes.

Funny my dealer in Long Beach offered me a test ride on the Versys 1000 while i was there picking up a couple of items for my FJR. Couldn't do it that day so set a time for the following week. Test rode an ugly green one but bought the lovely titanium one.

Ortega Hwy Run by weljo2001, on Flickr
crosshairs likes this.

2009 Blue Versys.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Sold
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Farkles...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Video Channel
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Photos...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


I'm not a Gynecologist. "But I'll Take A Look"

Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth...
Mike Tyson

"Ya'll can go to hell, I'm goin' to Texas!"...Davey Crockett
weljo2001 is online now  
post #16 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 03:38 PM
Member
 
twowheeladdict's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,124
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by frk2 View Post
Hmm I thought the same when I bought the FZ - I've added a givi case, a large madstat windscreen, Got a penske 8983 rear shock, Cartridge retrofits on the forks. Tried many seats but I can never make this thing comfortable. The problem is that the bike just feels a bit unstable and extremely uncomfortable. I can tell you the location of every tiny pothole and bump in ALL of california What suspension mods do you have? My ass/back hate anything over an hour riding on this thing and I'm only 37 and it good health/shape!

So what was the main reason behind your 650->FZ07 switch? I'm assuming the 650/300 handle air flow, comfort better in a light platform than the FZ. That clutch on the 300 seems like pure bliss!

The X300 feels MUCH lighter than the FZ fueled up. Dont get me wrong - I love the weight distro on the FZ, but the X300 honestly felt better and more comfortable. Hence I'm looking for a test ride!
I wanted to haul bikes on work trips where I had to get there quicker than riding or was leaving for warmer weather in the winter. The Versys was just a little to big to easily load into my truck and killed the fuel economy because of its height. My goal was to stay under 400 lbs.

I have hauled it to Florida, New Mexico, California, Oregon, and Washington. Rode California 36 out of Eureka to Reno in one shot. About 350 miles and 10 hours with stops. My wife says I have a butt of iron. I put a memory foam and seat cover on the original pan. Stock suspension because it is soft for bumpy roads. Not so good for racing through the curves though.


Compared to the Versys in the back of the truck.


Doing some camping with the truck.


Riding some nice roads.






A little gravel doesn't bother me on the FZ either.

My Versys Travels:


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
twowheeladdict is offline  
post #17 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 03:42 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 18
I live in SF - you can test ride my 650 V if you'd like!
Hupp92 is offline  
post #18 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hupp92 View Post
I live in SF - you can test ride my 650 V if you'd like!
Thanks dude - I already have tried it! (they let you test the 650/1000 but not the 300 _yet_). I like the 650 but I felt the weight coming from the FZ. Weight is my number one problem. Otherwise it was fine - Unclear on how it is on bumpy bay area roads? Do your teeth chatter and your spine feel like you need ipubrofen after an hour of riding?
frk2 is offline  
post #19 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 04:04 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheeladdict View Post
Stock suspension because it is soft for bumpy roads. Not so good for racing through the curves though.
I think you are right - the penske /cartidge stuff is all designed to be super stiff and make a rocket out of your bike. I'm gonna go back to stock and see what it was like.


Thanks dude!
frk2 is offline  
post #20 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 04:05 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by aemacleod View Post
After watching people in SE Asia using damned near any motorcycle to do damned near anything, I think people in the US are too fussy about performance. Where there's a will, there's a way, and you get that. It sounds like you'd be fine with a Versys 300. Best of luck!
I do agree - however some power on cali highways where everyone is going 85mph does help! But I do feel that though the FZ has a ton of power, I use not more that 25% throttle on average.
frk2 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki Versys Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome