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Panniers can not be used in conjunction with the topcase.

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I`m considering buying the x-300, and while checking its accessories I saw that the Panniers can not be used in conjunction with the topcase. ( see: Panniers 2x17L Versys-X 300 )

anybody know if its a weight issue or maybe the original accessories wont fit together but its possible with aftermarket luggage systems?
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I CAN'T say, but a lot of 650 owners saw the same "warning" from Kawi, but were able to do it anyway, thru various means.

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As Eddie mentioned the older gen 650's had the same warning and it was due to weight on the rear structure of the bike. That may be MaKaw's legal-eze to avoid law suits.
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As Eddie mentioned the older gen 650's had the same warning and it was due to weight on the rear structure of the bike. That may be MaKaw's legal-eze to avoid law suits.
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Per the Eagles song.........Get Over It, it was Shakespeare.


5. "Get Over It" The Eagles
Lawyer jokes go back a lot further than contemporary times. In this song about confession culture and victimization, Don Henley nods to Shakespeare with a nickname, then quotes from Dick The Butcher in Henry VI: "Old Billy was right / Let's kill all the lawyers tonight."
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As Eddie mentioned the older gen 650's had the same warning and it was due to weight on the rear structure of the bike. That may be MaKaw's legal-eze to avoid law suits.
Considering how easy it is to loft the front end on the gen2 Versys I had, I can't imagine having all that extra weight back there. Also, if the subframe wasn't meant to hold rider, passenger, saddlebags, and top case, then things can break when overloaded.

I went with the V35 saddlebags on my Versys and strapped extra luggage to the passenger seat area so not having trunk and saddlebags was not an issue for me.

On the FZ-07 my only choice was GIVI luggage racks and since I already own the GIVI V35s and a GIVI trunk from the Concours I went with the full rack system. I don't plan on ever touring with everything mounted plus a passenger so no issues there. Even on the heavy Concours I put light fluffy stuff in the trunk and heavy items at the bottom of each saddlebag.

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Here is my set up. Shad panniers and OEM top box. No issues.
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Primary reason I want plenty of storage isn't to haul heavy stuff at speed. It's to ride with it empty, then secure bulky (expensive) leather jacket and helmet at destination during a lunch or hike away from the bike. The better stuff like Givi, Kappa, and hopefully the Shad SH23's I've ordered are a bit more secure than my old topcase from JC Whitney that could be opened with any stubby key and a little jiggling.
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Here is my set up. Shad panniers and OEM top box. No issues.
When you say, "No Issues." what exactly do you mean?

How much weight have you carried in the bags and over what kind of terrain and how many miles?

What kind of speeds have you ridden with the luggage fully loaded?

I know on certain years of the KLR 650 the bolt connecting the sub-frame to the main frame was subject to break when the bike was loaded up and ridden as intended.

I know several riders cracked the sub-frame on various bikes travelling the Trans American Trail due to luggage weight on rough terrain.

Personally, I would want to know why Kawasaki chose saddlebags or trunk but not both. Handling issues? Weight issues? etc.?

When Kawasaki came out with the Vulcan Voyager 1700 they had a trunk rack mounted on a bike at the press launch. They decided against marketing a trunk rack on the production motorcycles. I heard that they decided the trunk lid couldn't handle the weight of the rack and what people might attach to it.

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When you say, "No Issues." what exactly do you mean?

How much weight have you carried in the bags and over what kind of terrain and how many miles? Pavement and a couple of dirt roads.

What kind of speeds have you ridden with the luggage fully loaded? Up to 75 on the freeway.

I know on certain years of the KLR 650 the bolt connecting the sub-frame to the main frame was subject to break when the bike was loaded up and ridden as intended. Have not loaded the panniers with heavy stuff. Will be used for carrying smaller items, for local day trips.

I know several riders cracked the sub-frame on various bikes travelling the Trans American Trail due to luggage weight on rough terrain. Will not be riding the TAT anytime soon. Nor will I be doing any gnarly mountain 4x4 trails/single track. As I am too old for that anymore.

Personally, I would want to know why Kawasaki chose saddlebags or trunk but not both. Handling issues? Weight issues? etc.? Many of the manufactures are concerned with the US market overloading the bikes load capacity and resulting law suits. Honda would not sell there ST1300 Top Box in the US for such an issue. We had to buy from overseas. I understand that by just looking at the US population. Also I will never ride two up on this little bike.

When Kawasaki came out with the Vulcan Voyager 1700 they had a trunk rack mounted on a bike at the press launch. They decided against marketing a trunk rack on the production motorcycles. I heard that they decided the trunk lid couldn't handle the weight of the rack and what people might attach to it. Exactly. See above statement. Thank you lawyers and the American tort system.
No issues with fitment and I have no issues with overloading.
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It was Shakespeare. But note : the characters proposing this wanted to establish a tyranny, and lawyers were an obstacle to their nefarious plan. They wanted the lawyers out of the way FIRST. Context is everything, boys and girls.....
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It was Shakespeare. But note : the characters proposing this wanted to establish a tyranny, and lawyers were an obstacle to their nefarious plan. They wanted the lawyers out of the way FIRST. Context is everything, boys and girls.....
I am thinking the Eagles have the lawyers in the proper context for current times.

Back on topic.

I have a 30 liter Kappa top box installed that will be used in conjunction with a set of the Shad 23s/3P rack panniers when they come off of back order at my dealer. The trunk will be used for light stuff and the panniers for items like spare tubes/compressor/tire change irons. etc.
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