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Versys-X 300 General Discussion Please post any 2017+ Kawasaki Versys-X 300 related topics that DO NOT fit into any of the other topics here.

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Thumbs up Sub-Forum--Kawasaki Versys-X 300

Will this Forum add a sub-forum for the Versys-X 300 like you folks did for the Versys 1000?
I'm downsizing from my Suzuki V-Strom 1000 to the Versys X300.
I hope other members, current or new will be posting information about the new smaller Versys!

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Well we will see if there is interest.If you check the Versys 1000 , very little activity, nothing since December 22 ,2016. I will stick this thread and see if there is interest. I recall one new recent member had one. So Versys -X-300 post here

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I've ridden one today

The Brisbane Moss Street Kwaka dealer has a demo Versys X 300 and I got to take it out today. The salesman who jumped up first just happened to ride the same dirt roads as I do on his KLR 650 so after swapping tales of the roads we have both ridden he took me on a bit of a tour with me on the X 300 following his KLR 650 around mostly very busy streets, BUT he took me to some spare land on an industrial estate where some locals have made a M/X track.

It was mostly hardpack with a little dirt and stones, lots of potholes and more than a few rain ruts, and a couple of small jumps. The X300 handled everything without complaint. Mind you I was taking things cautiously - no racing on a strange bike and an unknown track. I also had to sign off on what might cost me up to $2,500.

I'd like the seat to be a little higher for my 5' 11", although I was surprised how comfortable the bars, seat, footpegs did feel and getting up on the pegs was easy enough.

For a 300cc twin it has amazing power. You could easily think that it is a 400cc + bike. It starts to howl at 6,000 rpm with a red line at 12,000 rpm. And it goes - and it is linear. It would also pull away cleanly from 3,000 rpm no worries. He led me back via the motorway and at 95 km/hr (60 mph) it's spinning at 7,000 rpm.

I agree with gearing up. 1st is very low and I easily pulled away from a stop in second by just riding the clutch a little. First is pretty useless and I'd think that the engine will easily pull +1 tooth on the front as well as perhaps -2 teeth on the rear. I'd think that 100-120 km/hr speeds down the motorway would become frustrating fairly quickly.

The clutch is amazingly light and it took a little while to get used to the take up point being when the lever was almost fully out. The front brake (unfortunately non adjustable) had very little play and felt very wooden/unresponsive but the bike had only done 250kms.

The steel frame reminded me of the same one piece welded unit of my 1995 KDX 200. Even the footpeg mounts were part of the frame and I would think that wanting to move them would become a major engineering challenge. I would have preferred a slightly wider handlebar for riding dirt roads.

It handled very neutrally. Put it into a curve and it stayed there with no tendency to either fall in or stand up - even when accelerating mid curve. The screen was very effective - far better than my V-Strom, and no buffeting either.

The demo was the "grey" model which looked quite conservative until late in the day or under artificial light when the metallic colour stands out like small metalflake. They had no floor stock (sold out at 3 to 1 in green which is also a metallic finish) but are readily available from the distributors warehouse.

I was also interested to look at the Honda CRF 250 Rally and the yet to be released BMW 305 GS but as they are singles and effectively dirt bikes are sure to be both less powerful and less comfortable. I was very impressed.
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Brockie,
Nice write-up/review of the X. I have not had a chance to even sit on one. I am also waiting for a test ride of the X and the G305GS and the CRF250 Rally before making my next purchase.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
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...The clutch is amazingly light and it took a little while to get used to the take up point being when the lever was almost fully out....
This seems to be the way Ma Kawi sets up (all) their bikes, and one of the FIRST things I did to all three of my V 650s was to adjust so the "take-up-point" is about mid-way from the handle bars. I've done this for quite a few others on Kawis, too.

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It's the front brake that concerned me the most. Perhaps it just needed a clean or the opportunity to bed in. The missing adjusters and bolt on bits all help to keep the price down, and it is a very good price.
The suspension is undoubtedly very basic. Even the shock spring preload is by the very old fashioned stepped cam arrangement - I have not owned a bike with that type of adjuster for 30 years. I guess all those little savings must add up.
Lets face it - after a few twiddles on the knobs we mostly leave things alone for years. With this bike you will have to adjust to it, rather than being able to adjust it to suit you.

I am still very keen even though I have not ridden a CRF 250 Rally or seen the BMW 305 GS but both of those would surely not be as powerful or comfortable as the X 300.

The Honda Rally has all the good bits (USD forks etc) and the tech (everything is LED and electronic) but the X 300 is an adaptable road bike where it's competitors are modified dirt bikes. I'm having difficulty convincing myself that I don't want one.
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...I am still very keen even though I have not ridden a CRF 250 Rally....
I tested one last Saturday. Felt pretty good, as much as you can tell in a structured test-ride....

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I tested one last Saturday. Felt pretty good, as much as you can tell in a structured test-ride....
Does it ride just like a normal trail bike, vibes and all? The Kwaka shop were trying to twist my arm saying that customers had said how gutless the normal CRF 250 is, especially compared to the X 300.
How do you think it might cope with speed and distance for getting to those remote places? There is talk in these threads about the hard X 300 seat but nothing gets as uncomfortable as a small dirt bike after an hour or so.
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Does it ride just like a normal trail bike, vibes and all? The Kwaka shop were trying to twist my arm saying that customers had said how gutless the normal CRF 250 is, especially compared to the X 300.
How do you think it might cope with speed and distance for getting to those remote places? There is talk in these threads about the hard X 300 seat but nothing gets as uncomfortable as a small dirt bike after an hour or so.
All I can say is - it felt OK to me, but I did NOT ride any dirt.
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I just bought the x300
I had intended to purchase the Rally but all the articles said Honda needed to update the motor.
The 10 inches of suspension bottomed to easily. And the bike was uninspiring on the road.

As for the Versys, I find the font brake on mine very touchy and the back is near useless. As you need to stand on it to get any bite.

I find there is very limited power for a 300cc twin. This reminds me of very flat Honda cb 175 twin from the late 60s early 70s
I think they screwed up having a stoke so short. Even with the extreamly short gearing it has not helped the feeling that this engine is lacking power. Prob has to do with the low torque value.

I agree that first is useless. Even off road you don't need such a low first gear.
I had mine out on the hyway and it just seems there is no reason for the motor to be screaming like it is. I would rather drop down a gear if I need more power.

Bars feel ok to me. But after a long ride I feel somewhat cramped on this bike and I am only 5'7"

I would like to see taller gearing. Much more power in the upper rpm range. I think a longer stroke would add better torque figures.
I had a DT200rr single 2stoke street and trail that ran at 7k at 65mph that would out run the Versys twin with ease.

Cool bike very smooth motor. But there must be a lot more power hidden there somewhere.

Bring on the aftermarket!!!

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If your the type that pays no attention to what rpm the motor is doing hat you will be very surprised how well the 300 runs the hyway.
It spins so fast it reminds me of an electric motor.
And yes the Rally motor has had a lot of complaints once compared to the Versys.
But on the othe side of the coin the Versys suspension is stiff. It comes across as a bit harsh on small off road bumps.

One dirt road I was on had 4 or 5 small bumps and in a row. The road was smooth for the most part and I was doing aprox 35 mph. When I hit this small pot holes it really unsettled the bike. It shuttered and stepped sideways on the road. A dirt bike would have rolled through this without you ever noticing.

Also stones from the front tire were hitting the headers.

For me, I wanted a small bike that was more on road capable than off road capable. But able to let me explore easy trails and dirt roads.

And in this case the Versys absolutely blows the doors off the Honda Rally...

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