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Just for clarification, you want to go 2up over gnarly rocks and dirt fully kitted with hard cases on a liter bike?
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If you don't mind used, go back a couple of years to a KTM 990 Adventure. Less electronic gadgetry than the newer stuff, still a strong engine, decent weight, and tough as nails.

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Found you one already:

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If you have any luck finding a litre bike that fits those specs, please let me know as well.

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I really like the KLR. Why don't they make it with a V motor?! You know, twin cylinder, EFI...
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heres a slightly used 2015 1190R if you change your mind....2015 KTM 1190R - TWT Forums

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I don't think anything is going to meet all your desires, but if I were you, I'd be taking a close look at the Africa Twin at the first opportunity.

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The set of requirements does really narrow it down to the ADV porker-tourers.

Super Tenere
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Africa Twin?

Hard bags when you want to go off road do not seem like a good idea to me. Plastic bags will break easily, I've seen it happen way too many times, and metal cases will bend.

I really doubt there is a bike that can excel at the superslab and off road; it's always a compromise, the better they are at one thing the more they suck at the other.

And KTM still can't build a stupid airbox; That would keep me from a used 1190. There is no way to know if the engine ingested dirt at one point.

Also the electronic suspensions scare the hell out of me. OEM suspensions are always crappy, and the spring rates are always a compromise for a "one size fits all" kind of thing. Sorting out these electronic suspensions does not seems to be easy, as any change to the valves or spring rate would have to include some sort of re-flash to the ECU.
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I'm not concerned with it being a 1000 + cc bike. No need for it.

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Thats the response I wanna hear!

That pic I posted, we rode that entire trail 2 up.... She walked maybe 75-100 yards out of the whole thing.

To be a little more fair to the conversation, I do not have to have a "liter bike" (geez I really hate that saying, something about it seems snooty, say it in your head with a rich, snooty, fran drescher accent, liter bike. LLLiter bike ). Remember above where I referred to liking the KLR...
OH, and no. No hard cases. Wolfman bags. But yeah, I wanna, scratch that, I AM GOING to ride with luggage, 2 up, through the gnarly stuff!
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I admire you and your passenger for perseverance. I can't imagine riding two up off road on rough stuff.

IMO if you have a repair issue that occurs while riding, there is a 99.9% chance it will be tire or crash related. Regular maintenance issues are the same on virtually any bike, lubricate and adjust and replace consumable parts.

The electronics are probably the most reliable thing on a bike and improve engine reliability, drivability and performance over carburetors. I've never heard of the electronics on a bike needing fixing. Other than the stater failing, which will leave you stranded irregardless, they do not normally ever fail during the life of the bike since they have no moving parts and are protected by fuses from shorts and overloads. They also make repair easier by recording fault codes you can use to track an issue. It would seem sophisticated electronics for ABS and stability control are here to stay. Engine management electronics have been around as long as electronic fuel injection. Some modern systems with a diagnostic port allow connecting with software on your phone (via a bluetooth diagnostic plug) to easily do all the things a garage can do like read and reset fault codes, read sensors, etc.

A 400lb bike is lighter than a 500lb bike because it is physically smaller which means less room for a passenger. Maybe consider getting two smaller/lighter bikes?

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