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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 08-14-2008, 12:20 AM Thread Starter
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Versys or V-Strom?

For a long distance mostly paved road riding which one would you choose and why?
I imagine the most important characteristic for a motorcycle on long rides is comfort and perhaps range between fueling stops.
What do you think?
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Oh brother....don't get me started on this topic! Before I start, you should also consider a Ducati Multistrada 620 along with the Versys and V-strom. I was in the same place as you are a year ago, and thought the Versys was the superior machine for road use. If you plan to go off road at all, the V-strom will be your better choice. The V-strom 650 is heavier and more difficult to 'muscle' around. The Multistrada is completely and totally a direct competitor for the Versys. Both are made mainly for on road use, and both are light weight compared to everything else in the class. I was on the way to buy a Versys, but found a great deal on a Multistrada I couldn't pass up. If my Multi was stolen tomorrow, I would be down at the Kawasaki dealer for a Versys. The V-strom is UGLY and is in serious need of a redesign also. Additionally, I urge you to look at the Yamaha FZ6 which is also a close competitor to the Versys, V-strom, and Multi 620. Happy hunting....and let us know what you decided to get!

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I love my Versys and Strom riders who ride it love it also. Everything on the Versys is better except the seat. Great suspension and the abilty to be motard like while still being able to do the long hauls. This is the bike I have always wanted. Pulls like a tractor ,which means you do not have to change gears to make that pass. I have owned three SVs and this bike has them beat. Both bikes are good but the Versys is great.


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For a long distance mostly paved road riding which one would you choose and why?
I imagine the most important characteristic for a motorcycle on long rides is comfort and perhaps range between fueling stops.
What do you think?

I love that Wee Strom engine but as an overall package the Versys wins...especially in the looks department. However, maybe the introduction of the Versys will flood the market with used Wee Stroms (I just missed out on a fully farkled '07 Wee for $5000). You can't go wrong with either one. Coming off a big V twin I was impressed with the Wee and can imagine the Versys feels pretty close to that, especially since its pushing less weight around. I'm leaning toward a Versys unless a nice used Wee comes along...or a F800GS if I can talk my CFO into it The F800GS is everything I want in a bike..except for the price.

Someone else mentioned the FZ6, which is a great bargain but the I4 is an entirely different animal. I'm done with 4's, just 1's, 2's, or 3's for me
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I'm sure you'll be very happy with either. But, asking the question on this board you'll typically get a big nod for the V.

But, it is the best bike I've had to date, fast, great mpg, great range, smooth at freeway speeds and outstanding in the twisty bits. Its not great on gravel or any off road situation, other than that its very difficult to beat. Ducati would also be a great choice, but V will have it on price and reliability, plus a better riding position. I have only sat on Duc, so that may not be fair.

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.and who wants to do all that maintenance on a Duc...yuc.
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.and who wants to do all that maintenance on a Duc...yuc.
Actually, the maintenance isn't bad at all. The Ducati 620 motor has been around for almost 20 years, so the bugs are mostly worked out. I haven't had any real problems to speak of so far. Plus, with the L-Shaped engine configuration, and the fact that it's a 2 valve motor, the valve adjustments, ect are easy. I know Ducati's get a bad rep, but it's mostly due to the larger cc motors with 3 or more valves.

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Skeezix, Duc's get a bad rep because the valve adjustment period is really short (6,000 miles), and only a Duc mechanic knows how to do it. So when you look at the cost over several years that can really add up. The V has a really long valve adjustment period (26,000), one of the reasons that I am looking at it so heavily. I plan on some cross country rides and the thought of having to check valves during a long ride makes me shudder. I think the Wee is like 15K or 16K.

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Agree that on this forum you will probably get the nod for the V. Most are pretty fair though. I too had to choose between the v and wee. Had the 650 Ninja R and was such a terrific motor that i chose the v mainly because of a bad dealer network by me for Suzuki. Only thing that kept me away from the v all this time was seat height until i got on here and found out Speedy had such a great kit to lowere it. Don't think you could go wrong with either bike. Wee seemed heavier to me. Ducati dealers left our area years ago when they couldn't get parts for months. V dealer here is so nice that i went with him again. Third new bike i bought from them. dealer makes a difference. Had several BMW's and dealer is bad here and a 100 miles away and too many trips to the shop for a new bike for me. Had 5 over the years. No more.

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It's personal preference since they're both good bikes. I almost bought a V Strom a year ago and I'm sure I would have been happy with it. At that time Suzuki dealers were doing a much better job of selling Stroms than Kawi dealers were at selling Versys's. I visited Kawi dealers but they were trying to fit me into a Vulcan or a Ninja. I didn't even know the Versys existed and ended up buying a used KLR, which was a great choice. I hadn't ridden a bike in a long time and the KLR was a great bike to learn how to ride again.

When I decided to get a more roadworthy bike than the KLR I started looking around for a V Strom. I was really happy with my Kawasaki experience, however, after owning the KLR and my research led me to this website. If my Versys turns out to be a dud I will blame it directly on everybody on this site

I don't think you can go wrong either way but, like Skeezix says, the Strom is probably due for an upgrade. If I was to buy a Strom I would probably shop for a good used one. That way I haven't sunk new money into a bike that becomes old vintage if Suzuki upgrades it in the near future.
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The Versys has a shorter wheelbase, and 17" versus 19" wheels on the V-Strom. More tire choices available, (see the endless debates on this forum), but this also gives it a much more responsive steering geometry. ie) way more fun!

The V-strom has a better seat, and is probably a little more comfy if you are buying a long distance touring machine. But...if I wanted a long distance touring machine I would look at a sport tour like a concours or BMW 1200.

The Versys is an all-arounder. It does that job superbly. Have had mine since summer 2007 and my only complaint is not enough time to ride it.
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But...if I wanted a long distance touring machine I would look at a sport tour like a concours or BMW 1200.
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I recently sat on the Concours and I hated the big lean forward and all that weight. The BMW 1200, too many personal reviews complain about a lot of electrical problems with them. For that kind of money, that sucker better run, but no cigar.

I want a "cheap" bike that offers a lot with low maintenance and low problems. The V does that job well.
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Skeezix, Duc's get a bad rep because the valve adjustment period is really short (6,000 miles), and only a Duc mechanic knows how to do it. So when you look at the cost over several years that can really add up. The V has a really long valve adjustment period (26,000), one of the reasons that I am looking at it so heavily. I plan on some cross country rides and the thought of having to check valves during a long ride makes me shudder. I think the Wee is like 15K or 16K.

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It's a little know fact that Ducs (especially the 620 and 695 motors) rarely need a valve adjustment for 30,000 mikes AFTER the initial check/adjustment at 6,000K. Itís one of the wonders of owning a Desmo motor. Iím not gonna say my bike is better than a Versys, or a V-Strom, but I want people to know that Ducs arenít like they used to be in the 90ís. Times have changed, and although the dealer network isnít always great, the bikes are much, MUCH more reliable and maintenance friendly than they used to be, Anyone who is looking at a 650cc Versys or V-Strom should check out a used Multi 620. They all play in the same field, and offer many of the same features.

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I haven't done anything over 200 miles on the v at a time. but find it fully adequate and comfortable after a little seat mod. Now i've been to daytona on the v-rod and to Sturgis. Comfort wise, i will be riding the v when i go back.
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In my opinion versys is a bike that gives lots of fun, and also it can pick you in long trip. Once i had Honda Deauville and those kind of bikes (just like storm), can pick you in a long Trip more comfortable, but dont count for so many fun, like on versys. You can also watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dreoYlnlVQw

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Skeezix, Duc's get a bad rep because the valve adjustment period is really short (6,000 miles), and only a Duc mechanic knows how to do it....

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Beautiful bikes, great performers, sex on two wheels, but you never hear stories about how reliable Ducs are. Depends on how much time, effort and money you're willing to invest for "passion." I'd rather ride.

The V is a good choice for mostly paved roads.

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I totally agree with the above. Had a Duc in my earlier years and the motor alway ran but everything else on the bike failed. My friends would be rideing and i would be takeing it to be fixed or ordering parts. Turned me off and vowed never to own another. Then a few years ago i thought about one and the dealer here was dropping them i found out because he had so much delay in getting parts. Too many unsatiisfied customers. I haven't seen one here in the midwest for years now. Wonder why?

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I sat on the 1k Multistrada and it was quite uncomfortable. Same with the KTM Adventure. Didn't sit on a Wee, but the V was like "holy crap, made just for me!"
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Apples and oranges

I originally planned to get the WeeStrom, but the dealer blew the deal by trying to slip a bunch of unwanted add-ons into the package. I walked out, went to my local dealer, and got the Vee instead. I've ridden both bikes though and can't say that I like one better than the other. Both have great features. The looks of both are fine with me - I want dependability and good performance, and don't care that much about cosmetics.
I like the longer wheelbase of the Wee - smoother ride and IMHO, better low speed handling. The shorter wheelbase on the Vee though, makes wheelies easy and fun. The Wee had a lot better wind protection and the finish seemed to be a lot cleaner. I think that on a road course, the rider would make all of the difference. Both bikes have gobs of torque and similar top end speed. Both carve turns like knives (with decent tires mounted.) The Wee definitely has the more comfortable seat and better fenders.
Suzuki had the good sense to make ABS available on the Wee too. The Wee already has better brakes than the Vee, but ABS is a huge improvement. If the dealer that I was talking to about the Wee hadn't tried to hoodoo me, I'd be riding the ABS Wee now, but I still love the Vee.
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Both great bikes - I chose the Versys purely as the V-Stroms I rode all had quite bad bar vibes...
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