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Wow, I like that, very Scrambler'ish.
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one too many bends in that exhaust at the end..looks funky and not in a good way...too bad they never sold the 800 here in the states...
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one too many bends in that exhaust at the end..looks funky and not in a good way...too bad they never sold the 800 here in the states...
Exhaust design is a black art. They have the adjacent cylinder headers to heat the exhaust up like BMW F650 Rotax engines from Austria. Then the rest is to accumulate a theoretical tuning distance: I think 3' is the magic number from historical empirical evidence. So whether you see funky bends in headers or large labyrinth mufflers, most will in some way achieve the 3' requirement of tuned mufflers. I.e. - you don't want mufflers sticking out past the rear wheel, so... bends are cool.

The muffler, if it is SS, it one of the best features of this bike. I really like the enamel Kawasaki green paint job too. From the clunky bulky model this came from, this is a work of art imo. S2 Concept is the racers edge in design, at not too bad of a price for what you get.

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I own a '74 CB360 already, almost never ride it because I need to do a whole bunch of engine/carb work on it and I lose motivation when the weather is nice and would rather ride the V.


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I own a '74 CB360 already, almost never ride it because I need to do a whole bunch of engine/carb work on it and I lose motivation when the weather is nice and would rather ride the V.
Get you some side-scrambler exhaust pipes, and then you will enjoy getting blown all over the road on your 350cc by new efi cars!
It looks like a death-wish on the expressway or city streets either one. Good luck!
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Get you some side-scrambler exhaust pipes, and then you will enjoy getting blown all over the road on your 350cc by new efi cars!
It looks like a death-wish on the expressway or city streets either one. Good luck!
my '81 Suzuki GS 450T ain't much bigger than that Honda..and it doesn't get blown all over the road...now the skinny tires are a lot of fun after 85mph..other than that..lots of fun on the freeway..or anyplace else...
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my '81 Suzuki GS 450T ain't much bigger than that Honda..and it doesn't get blown all over the road...now the skinny tires are a lot of fun after 85mph..other than that..lots of fun on the freeway..or anyplace else...
30% more displacement makes a difference comparably. That's like the difference between your 450cc and 650cc, or his 350cc and 250cc. It would make a difference to me: riding underpowered motorcycles is dangerous to my health around today's fast cars on all sides of me.

Enjoy your bad 450cc and ride on Brother!
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Get you some side-scrambler exhaust pipes, and then you will enjoy getting blown all over the road on your 350cc by new efi cars!
It looks like a death-wish on the expressway or city streets either one. Good luck!
The 360 is just fine on surface streets.


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30% more displacement makes a difference comparably. That's like the difference between your 450cc and 650cc, or his 350cc and 250cc. It would make a difference to me: riding underpowered motorcycles is dangerous to my health around today's fast cars on all sides of me.

Enjoy your bad 450cc and ride on Brother!
Only about 33# difference in the two bikes. Because, ya know, getting blown around is about weight not engine displacement.


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Only about 33# difference in the two bikes. Because, ya know, getting blown around is about weight not engine displacement.
And PROBABLY more about weight distribution, C of G, etc.

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Sucks that Kawasaki won't bring the w800 to the states.
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Sucks that Kawasaki won't bring the w800 to the states.
yup..we need some modern day BSAs to compete with the modern day Triumphs...

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riding underpowered motorcycles is dangerous to my health around today's fast cars on all sides of me.
Probably a fair amount of riders on much more powerful machines think the Versys is under powered, and unable to accelerate out of problem areas (compared to what they are used to) It's all relative to the riders experience. I have ridden the little Honda, although many years ago.. As I Recall it had absolutely zero issues keeping up with, or surpassing traffic.

I really like the look of the triumph Scramblers, especially dolled up, I wonder what their reliability is like.. Never really researched them.
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Probably a fair amount of riders on much more powerful machines think the Versys is under powered, and unable to accelerate out of problem areas (compared to what they are used to) It's all relative to the riders experience. I have ridden the little Honda, although many years ago.. As I Recall it had absolutely zero issues keeping up with, or surpassing traffic.

I really like the look of the triumph Scramblers, especially dolled up, I wonder what their reliability is like.. Never really researched them.
FI car vehicles are faster today than "many years ago." The advantage the Vs. 650 has is midrange-torque to move when you turn the throttle (with good power/weight ratio). The sport bikes over 80mph are fast, but who cares? They require high rpm's, mph's, and you are hunched down on your gas tank or driving with one right arm stretched. Superbikes are more ergonomic, but they are still peaky (and heavy), and when you hit the driving range, you can do 100mph+ instantly. That can be dangerous, expensive, and kill your driving privileges (never separate from the pack for safety and attention.) That's why the Vs. 650 is perfect with only a couple of bikes in it's class (none really, but... just to be sure.)

Cruisers, crotch rockets, and super bikes sell well though (and better than the Vs. 650.) From riding the roads every day though, I think most are sitting at home. At least cars have a good example of a proficient and safe motorcycle driver (me)

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FI car vehicles are faster today than "many years ago." The advantage the Vs. 650 has is midrange-torque to move when you turn the throttle (with good power/weight ratio). The sport bikes over 80mph are fast, but who cares? They require high rpm's, mph's, and you are hunched down on your gas tank or driving with one right arm stretched. Superbikes are more ergonomic, but they are still peaky (and heavy), and when you hit the driving range, you can do 100mph+ instantly. That can be dangerous, expensive, and kill your driving privileges (never separate from the pack for safety and attention.) That's why the Vs. 650 is perfect with only a couple of bikes in it's class (none really, but... just to be sure.)

Cruisers, crotch rockets, and super bikes sell well though (and better than the Vs. 650.) From riding the roads every day though, I think most are sitting at home. At least cars have a good example of a proficient and safe motorcycle driver (me)
There is no perfect bike, stop making that assertion.


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