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Compared Versys with BMW F650GS and Yamaha FZ6

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I was always wonder what is the difference between engines with single, twin and 4 cylinders. We took 3 bikes and compared their dynamics.
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no inline 3's?

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no inline 3's?
No triumphs are very rare in our country.

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No triumphs are very rare in our country.

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Yamaha is only 850 ccm. There is no sense to compare it with 600-650 ccm bikes.

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Yamaha is only 850 ccm. There is no sense to compare it with 600-650 ccm bikes.
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I still have a 1997 BMW F650ST. I think it rocks even though it will give you sore buns; but to match the Vs. 650, you would have to get 1) a Bombardier DS650 Web cam high lift/short duration cam (similar to Vs. 650 midrange cam), 2) buy a Husky TR 650 enhanced top end (BMW 650) racing bike, or 3) get a turbo which few have been done. You will spend up to $5K more for these options complete (although I'd like a Strada TR650 Husky cheap - in addition.)

But rather than do that, it is much cheaper to buy and maintain a Vs. 650.The performance and reliability would be hard to equal by any of the others for all round riding. A thump is nice, but add in the supermoto chassis too, and there are a few more thousand dollars to match (actually though, the Husky TR650 may come close but 1) it's a one-year wonder discontinued bike and 2) it's not Japanese.)

All motorcycles are fun to drive, but I don't know of any more fun than the Vs. 650 at most of the speeds we drive and most of the time. Racetracks are a different story maybe, but that is apples and oranges. Racing motorcycles is way beyond what I want to do, like the offroad image of the BMW 650's, but that is what sells high profit margin bikes that are rarely run for racing or offroad. Most of those owners get their (bike image) thrills 5% to 10% of the time (estimated), whereas I enjoy my sports-touring deluxe close to 100% of the time Safely! ymmv



And the BMW GS650's (efi) do not have any low middle range, like noted in the video above, but they get good gas mileage. BMW needs Aprilia or Husky to help them design their single cylinder engine bikes, imo.

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Prior to my Versys, I had a Kawasaki Concours 1000 with an inline four. I like to accelerate fast. I don't speed much, but I usually get to my chosen speed ASAP. I was shocked and stunned at the torque of the Versys. Maybe I downgraded in HP, but the torque is amazingly similar or possibly better since it's 220 lbs lighter.
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Prior to my Versys, I had a Kawasaki Concours 1000 with an inline four. I like to accelerate fast. I don't speed much, but I usually get to my chosen speed ASAP. I was shocked and stunned at the torque of the Versys. Maybe I downgraded in HP, but the torque is amazingly similar or possibly better since it's 220 lbs lighter.
Yeah, I had a BMW K1100LT and above 80mph, it was great, but that is a hell of lot of mass to control at those speeds! That bike almost killed me. 650 cc to 750 cc vertical single or twins for life for me, and the preference always goes to midrange overhead cams - they rock! It's fun, safe and you don't have to be going too fast for your own good. I hope they never quit making the Vs. 650, but as long as there is a Ninja 650, I think we are safe: the Vs. 650 is the half price economy model from left over Ninja parts (with a midrange cam and vertical seating)
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Prior to my Versys, I had a Kawasaki Concours 1000 with an inline four. I like to accelerate fast. I don't speed much, but I usually get to my chosen speed ASAP. I was shocked and stunned at the torque of the Versys. Maybe I downgraded in HP, but the torque is amazingly similar or possibly better since it's 220 lbs lighter.
Yup, the same here. Pulling away from a traffic light the V actually feels quicker than the Connie. And, the only other way that I could lose over 200 pounds of ugly fat from my motorcycle would be for me to not get on it.

I'm just about to my 1 year anniversary with the Versys, and I think there have been 2 occasions where I felt I really needed more power, and neither of them were safety-related, I just wish I could have passed faster. Every once in a while I'm a little wistful and think I'd like the rush of of a liter bike engine winding out, but it quickly passes.
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Yup, the same here. Pulling away from a traffic light the V actually feels quicker than the Connie. And, the only other way that I could lose over 200 pounds of ugly fat from my motorcycle would be for me to not get on it.

I'm just about to my 1 year anniversary with the Versys, and I think there have been 2 occasions where I felt I really needed more power, and neither of them were safety-related, I just wish I could have passed faster. Every once in a while I'm a little wistful and think I'd like the rush of of a liter bike engine winding out, but it quickly passes.
Pretty funny Phasechange. We could've written each others posts. I ordered my Versys one year ago this month. Although, I didn't actually take delivery for nine looong weeks.

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Pretty funny Phasechange. We could've written each others posts. I ordered my Versys one year ago this month. Although, I didn't actually take delivery for nine looong weeks.
My purchase proceeded a little more quickly. I wasn't completely sold on the idea of such a small bike, but a I stopped in after work to take a quick test ride (a leftover 2014). That's what I rode home that evening.
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