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Pulled the rear wheel assembly just now. If it weren't for the heavy sprocket hanging way out, I could easily stand the wheel assembly on the flat spot.

Putting on my new Road 5 rear today.

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Pulled the rear wheel assembly just now. If it weren't for the heavy sprocket hanging way out, I could easily stand the wheel assembly on the flat spot.

Putting on my new Road 5 rear today.
That tire still has a couple of thousand miles left in it....unless the pic is misleading.
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It's losing tread very quickly now, and traction is significantly reduced. Pretty easy to spin the tire now during the occasions that the pavement is actually dry.

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It may be due to the surface of your roads in US, concrete. Here , mostly bitumen which more forgiving on tires.
Not sure why you have such tire wear in the center..
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It may be due to the surface of your roads in US, concrete. Here , mostly bitumen which more forgiving on tires.

Not sure why you have such tire wear in the center..
Mostly freeway riding, almost no turns. It's really normal out here. Add to that the harsh road surface conditions, and you have a recipe for odd tire wear.

Not sure if y'all can see in the second picture, but I have less than half of 1/32" remaining to the wear indicator.

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How many miles on the rear tire? Hopefully the Road 5 will have a greater lifespan than your last.
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It's been swell, but the swelling has gone down.
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Over 7k. It's the original rear on a 2016 I bought new a few months ago.

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Over 7k. It's the original rear on a 2016 I bought new a few months ago.
That seems pretty decent out of the box. Moving forward, perhaps you can ride around in figure eights occasionally to round off those flat spots
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A long straight commute most of the time is part of why I switched over to Shinko 705 tires. Less than $200 for the set and I'm thinking I'll get at least 7000 out of the rear. I'm getting the heavy flat spot as well. Not sure how long your commute is but I'm at 102mi 4x a week, sometimes 6x a week. I rode from NW Missouri down to Atlanta and then up to the Tail of the Dragon last September. Rode through terrible rain and pushed as hard as I could on the Tail, not a single worry from them.

Edit: Just realized I was in the V1000 forum. I ride a 650 so I'm not sure how those tires would fair on the V1000 or if they'd even fit.
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My commute is about 70 miles a day, usually 5 days a week. I'm really hoping the Michelins will do better than that.

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Gotta love that Michelin POP!!!

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Done!

Lubed and adjusted the chain again, as well. That's a job that never seems to end. Lol.

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It seems like you need more curvy roads
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Go give that new rear tire a good scrub!
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Things are still pretty wet here, and I have to take a nap before work tonight.

I did take it out on the freeway to get to the hardware store for a new rear axle pin. The difference in feel is pretty obvious. It felt squishy at first (I verified the air pressure immediately before riding. So much easier with a 90° Schrader valve) and seemed to want to lean much more quickly. Almost too quickly, in fact. Almost to the point of feeling squirrely.

I believe this is due to the tire being perfectly rounded, especially compared to the old one.

OH, yeah... I should have taken a picture, but I wasn't wearing my waterproof boots; wet roads were fine. Even with 6 inches of standing water on them.
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Things are still pretty wet here, and I have to take a nap before work tonight.

I did take it out on the freeway to get to the hardware store for a new rear axle pin. The difference in feel is pretty obvious. It felt squishy at first (I verified the air pressure immediately before riding. So much easier with a 90° Schrader valve) and seemed to want to lean much more quickly. Almost too quickly, in fact. Almost to the point of feeling squirrely.

I believe this is due to the tire being perfectly rounded, especially compared to the old one.

OH, yeah... I should have taken a picture, but I wasn't wearing my waterproof boots; wet roads were fine. Even with 6 inches of standing water on them.
FYI , breaking a new tire in on wet roads is a very dangerous thing, after 200 miles you will notice a significant difference in handling, I considered breaking in my PR5 just after my last ride with the new flash on December 2, ( I replaced both front and rear on December 6, 2018), the fact that we had frost in the ground, and condensation occurred on the pavement at 4'C, combined by the fact that those tires weren't meant to grip the same at 4'C as they do at 20'C . I decide to wait until spring.
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I really don't have the option to wait to break in the new tire. Things dried out considerably overnight, and I'll likely have a few trips to work and back before the next storm system rolls through.

I noticed yesterday morning that this tire feels like it's made of glue on a lot of corners, but last night I felt like it was walking around on every turn. In fact, I stopped to check for a flat a few miles from the house. Really weird. Finally determined that the tire really seems to like being driven through corners, rather than the coasting, light handlebar pressure technique I was using with the worn out Battleax.

That style of riding is an adaptation I'm hapoy to make, but it's unexpected.

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FYI , breaking a new tire in on wet roads is a very dangerous thing, after 200 miles you will notice a significant difference in handling, I considered breaking in my PR5 just after my last ride with the new flash on December 2, ( I replaced both front and rear on December 6, 2018), the fact that we had frost in the ground, and condensation occurred on the pavement at 4'C, combined by the fact that those tires weren't meant to grip the same at 4'C as they do at 20'C . I decide to wait until spring.
Many times I have "broken-in" new tires by riding in some sand (NOT deep sand!), or other dirt....
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I think it's pretty good now. Didn't notice any weird handling on the way home from work, despite my slower pace. I guess I know for sure this evening when I go back.

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I got 12k out of my first rear and 14k out of my second rear. I don't ever have to ride in the rain so can't speak to that performance. But I like the life span that is for sure.

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