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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-11-2019, 10:32 AM Thread Starter
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I'm liking this bike!

Most of y'all probably know what I do by now. that said, I get a chance to ride different bikes for my living , yeah, I know, it's a tough life! Y'all probably know I had a gen 3 650, and now have a 2015 v1000. I just wanted to share that I REALLY like this bike! It's not as nimble as the 650, but it makes up for it in acceleration. Even with traction control on, 1st gear wheelies are a wrist flick away. Although the redline is 10000, the factor limiter is actually set at 9500. I raised mine to 10k, as it's not a problem, stress wise for this engine, and it's still pulling well for the extra 500 rpms. I'm honestly amazed that the engine has as broad of a power band as it does without VVT. To me, this is the most rpm flexible non vvt engine I have ever ridden on. The result is that I can idle along at 5 mph / 800 rpm with no fear of the engine trying to die , and yet pull to 10k on a WOT romp. THAT is an impressive spread for any engine!

The only place I find lacking is suspension. Seriously lacking, actually. So now I'm faced with the dilemna of dropping a bunch of money to fix that. I did so on my Concours, and it was transformational. What I'd be seeking is something more worthy of broken pavement and offroad riding. More compliance. This nice part about this bike is that it's easy to handle on dirt roads, so that opens up more riding opportunities for me. I just need to get it so my kidneys can take it, and I'm not rattling parts off the bike.

If anyone has any suspension upgrade tips, I'm all ears. I'm researching now, and so far it seems the answer is like BMW... "BRING MORE WALLET" 'cus it's gonna cost! Steve
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Update... since nobody has posted a method to save money and save from my farkle addiction, I sprung for an Ohlin's rear shock today.

Did I mention I really like this bike?

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Most of y'all probably know what I do by now. that said, I get a chance to ride different bikes for my living , yeah, I know, it's a tough life! Y'all probably know I had a gen 3 650, and now have a 2015 v1000. I just wanted to share that I REALLY like this bike! It's not as nimble as the 650, but it makes up for it in acceleration. Even with traction control on, 1st gear wheelies are a wrist flick away. Although the redline is 10000, the factor limiter is actually set at 9500. I raised mine to 10k, as it's not a problem, stress wise for this engine, and it's still pulling well for the extra 500 rpms. I'm honestly amazed that the engine has as broad of a power band as it does without VVT. To me, this is the most rpm flexible non vvt engine I have ever ridden on. The result is that I can idle along at 5 mph / 800 rpm with no fear of the engine trying to die , and yet pull to 10k on a WOT romp. THAT is an impressive spread for any engine!

The only place I find lacking is suspension. Seriously lacking, actually. So now I'm faced with the dilemna of dropping a bunch of money to fix that. I did so on my Concours, and it was transformational. What I'd be seeking is something more worthy of broken pavement and offroad riding. More compliance. This nice part about this bike is that it's easy to handle on dirt roads, so that opens up more riding opportunities for me. I just need to get it so my kidneys can take it, and I'm not rattling parts off the bike.

If anyone has any suspension upgrade tips, I'm all ears. I'm researching now, and so far it seems the answer is like BMW... "BRING MORE WALLET" 'cus it's gonna cost! Steve
Did you do a major flash to this bike, or does it perform this well stock?
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Did you do a major flash to this bike, or does it perform this well stock?
I'm working on a flash, but the bike performs well as is, it just needed some polishing. One of the larger undertakings was to tune it to run on mid-grade, not premium. Kawasaki went WAY overboard with the timing, there are places on WOT that I've pulled almost 20% of the timing off and still gained power. Steve
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Ohlin front & back or just back. My 659 has a Ohlin -back and its a wonderful feeling with the Ohlin at the back.
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Which models and how many dollars?

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Ohlin front & back or just back. My 659 has a Ohlin -back and its a wonderful feeling with the Ohlin at the back.

As stated, the rear.

52 Degrees... I found it on ebay, listed by an italian distributor Sestimarcia. I called Ohlins USA to confirm. iirc is a model sdr1. it doesn't have the remote preload adjuster, but I'll only be riding this bike one up so that's fine. It was 586.00 shipped, and they have more listed. This bike desperately needed a better shock, and that price is incredible, even for an "entry level" ohlins.
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Most of y'all probably know what I do by now. that said, I get a chance to ride different bikes for my living , yeah, I know, it's a tough life! Y'all probably know I had a gen 3 650, and now have a 2015 v1000. I just wanted to share that I REALLY like this bike! It's not as nimble as the 650, but it makes up for it in acceleration. Even with traction control on, 1st gear wheelies are a wrist flick away. Although the redline is 10000, the factor limiter is actually set at 9500. I raised mine to 10k, as it's not a problem, stress wise for this engine, and it's still pulling well for the extra 500 rpms. I'm honestly amazed that the engine has as broad of a power band as it does without VVT. To me, this is the most rpm flexible non vvt engine I have ever ridden on. The result is that I can idle along at 5 mph / 800 rpm with no fear of the engine trying to die , and yet pull to 10k on a WOT romp. THAT is an impressive spread for any engine!

The only place I find lacking is suspension. Seriously lacking, actually. So now I'm faced with the dilemna of dropping a bunch of money to fix that. I did so on my Concours, and it was transformational. What I'd be seeking is something more worthy of broken pavement and offroad riding. More compliance. This nice part about this bike is that it's easy to handle on dirt roads, so that opens up more riding opportunities for me. I just need to get it so my kidneys can take it, and I'm not rattling parts off the bike.

If anyone has any suspension upgrade tips, I'm all ears. I'm researching now, and so far it seems the answer is like BMW... "BRING MORE WALLET" 'cus it's gonna cost! Steve
Steve, I just got my 2015 V1K brand-new off the dealer floor last month and like you, I love the bike. I’m going to get Race Tech Gold Valve emulators for the forks as they incorporate an adjustable compression stack along with rebound. How’s the Ohlins? As if I need to ask! 😂
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Steve,

I put Ohlins Blackline 772 13" shocks on my Road Glide Custom. Major improvement in compliance without sacrificing cornering stability.

I went with Bitubo adjustable shocks on the Moto Guzzi because I wanted the red spring and black shock to match the bike.

The front end of the Moto Guzzi got the fully adjustable cartridge treatment from Traxxion Dynamics over in Woodstock, GA. Great product!

The suspension on the Moto Guzzi was too soft for the riding I do, but I wanted to retain the ability to absorb imperfections in the road. Great combination for me.
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Yeah, Suspension is expensive but once you've had a good suspension it's hard to go back to stock. Steve
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Well my shock is here. Unfortunately they sent it with the default spring for a 180# rider. it's to light. I did specify my weight, and they responded that it would be set up for my weight. I guess they didn't figure I'd contact Ohlin's to confirm the spring weight. I contacted the seller, now I'm waiting for their response.
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That reminds me... I think the knob is supposed to be for preload, but... Is there a way to tighten the spring otherwise? You know... Like on other bikes?

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That reminds me... I think the knob is supposed to be for preload, but... Is there a way to tighten the spring otherwise? You know... Like on other bikes?
which shock are you asking about?
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The (factory) rear on the V1K

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the factory shock has a spring preload adjuster - the knob - for setting sag, and there's a screw near the bottom to adjust the rebound.
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OK. So there's no spanner adjustment, then.

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OK. So there's no spanner adjustment, then.
The knob takes the place of the spanner adjustment. The knob, like the spanner adjustment is used to set static sag for one rider, rider and passenger, rider and luggage, and rider, passenger, and luggage.

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I get it, I just wanted more. Lol.

I'm not exactly a lightweight alone. Once I add my significant other, um... It's gonna need some help, I think.

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I get it, I just wanted more. Lol.

I'm not exactly a lightweight alone. Once I add my significant other, um... It's gonna need some help, I think.
You need a heavier rated spring then.
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Yeah... I was hoping to get by on the cheap.

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