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Is this really what goes for $80???

I bought the SW Motech light mount kit from Twisted Throttle. As an admitted and unreformed (and unrepentant) cheapskate, I waited until I saw it for half price and jumped on it. Here's what I received :

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I bought the SW Motech light mount kit from Twisted Throttle. As an admitted and unreformed (and unrepentant) cheapskate, I waited until I saw it for half price and jumped on it. Here's what I received :
I can only comment on my 2015, my cost was around $70 Canadian, worth every penny, I have both a stick and mig welder available and stainless brackets, the mounting fit like a glove, the time involved to get the perfect fit through trial and error can't compare to the finished product.

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I work in a custom steel fabrication shop.
One of the hardest things to get across to the men at the work tables is that the time clock is the most expensive thing in the shop.

Before you complain too loudly...stop and think how much an hour of your time is worth after you add up alllllll the things that go into you living that hour.
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If'n ya don't want to pay premium prices for parts and accessories, stay away from motorcycles, boats, aircraft and women. You're welcome.

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I understand all that. I just can't see spending $100+ on a pair of brackets, four bolts and nuts, and 4 plastic washers. I think the bubble wrap it was shipped in weighed more than the parts it contained (seriously, a LOT of bubble wrap to protect a finish that was nothing more than protective).

Yeah, I get it. Development and tooling costs are high for a limited production item. But, a hundred bucks for a pair of brackets is highway robbery. For that kind of dough, I expect something with more... Everything.

I mean, seriously... I bought an entire Michelin rear tire for $175, shipped!

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Understand you predicaments 52D and that's how some people make their living and labor cost these days is not cheap.

I make my own brackets and fittings for the bike, because I have all the tools and material and I love been productive in life.
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Heh-heh...wait till you see how much Kawasaki gets for a 12volt socket!
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Heh-heh...wait till you see how much Kawasaki gets for a 12volt socket!
Yes, we'll... There's a reason I've not ordered any Kawasaki factory accessories.

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I understand all that. I just can't see spending $100+ on a pair of brackets, four bolts and nuts, and 4 plastic washers. I think the bubble wrap it was shipped in weighed more than the parts it contained (seriously, a LOT of bubble wrap to protect a finish that was nothing more than protective).

Yeah, I get it. Development and tooling costs are high for a limited production item. But, a hundred bucks for a pair of brackets is highway robbery. For that kind of dough, I expect something with more... Everything.

I mean, seriously... I bought an entire Michelin rear tire for $175, shipped!
I agree man. I'm an industrial designer for a manufacturer who makes steel products. We have factories in the US, China and Mexico. The price of steel is a buck or two a pound. So they have some money in the tooling to stamp that part and bend it but they don't have the volume to lower the price. It should be $20 or less. I'm always blown away by the prices of steel bike part prices. If everyone rode a bike that part would be $5-$20.
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Heh-heh...wait till you see how much Kawasaki gets for a 12volt socket!


Yep I bought the OEM 12V Outlet over $80.00....Then i found out after that the Vulcan S 12V Socket fits the Versys and only cost $21.95.....https://www.kawasaki.com/accessories...tlet/999940541



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I got really sick the last few days. Actually called in sick last night for the first time in over 10 years. Had the bike partially apart Thursday and just now putting it back together for work tonight.

Here's the brackets, installed. Oh, and my totally jank fog lights. Lol.

I'll save the wiring for another day.
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Heh-heh...wait till you see how much Kawasaki gets for a 12volt socket!


Yep I bought the OEM 12V Outlet over $80.00....Then i found out after that the Vulcan S 12V Socket fits the Versys and only cost $21.95.....https://www.kawasaki.com/accessories...tlet/999940541



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Doesn’t it have different connectors? Does the Versys 1000 need a relay for it?
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Doesn’t it have different connectors? Does the Versys 1000 need a relay for it?


Same connectors and you don't have to buy a relay with the V-1000 just the V-650...

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They're dirty in this pic, but MY mounts cost about two hours of cutting and 'molding', 2" of weld (1" per side), and a couple of bolts. Of course - that's on top of the cost for the SW Motech crash-bars!



Here's a 'cleaner' pic....


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I understand all that. I just can't see spending $100+ on a pair of brackets, four bolts and nuts, and 4 plastic washers. I think the bubble wrap it was shipped in weighed more than the parts it contained (seriously, a LOT of bubble wrap to protect a finish that was nothing more than protective).

Yeah, I get it. Development and tooling costs are high for a limited production item. But, a hundred bucks for a pair of brackets is highway robbery. For that kind of dough, I expect something with more... Everything.

I mean, seriously... I bought an entire Michelin rear tire for $175, shipped!
That is custom made for your bike. How many do you thing they will sell?

The manufacturer has to gain access to a test bike to make custom parts for it. Most times they have to buy the bike and then maybe recoup some of those costs by selling it with their accessories installed when they have made all they want for that model.

SW MOTEK is a European firm. Think about all the hands that touched that accessory before your hands ever touched it.

From Raw Material to delivery every hand needs to make a profit.

I once bought a carburetor for a line trimmer direct from mainland China. It was the exact replacement down to all the markings. It cost me $10 shipped on a slow boat, but would have cost me $80 at the local John Deere store.

Of course you didn't HAVE to add those brackets or extra lighting to your bike. You chose to.

Motorcycles are a priority in my life. I do without Cable or Satellite TV. Rarely eat out. Brew my own coffee. Don't smoke, rarely drink anything but water, and never order a drink at a restaurant. I am a tightwad, cheapskate, conservative when it comes to everything but motorcycles. When I was 19 I owned a $1600 motorcycle and a $100 car.
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Doesn’t it have different connectors? Does the Versys 1000 need a relay for it?


Same connectors and you don't have to buy a relay with the V-1000 just the V-650...
Followed your sage advice and got the $20 version, installed it and voila!, just as you say, exact replacement for a quarter the price! Thanks.
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Followed your sage advice and got the $20 version, installed it and voila!, just as you say, exact replacement for a quarter the price! Thanks.



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SW Moto Bars on a 2019 SE

Not sure if it was this forum or another I am on. some one was asking if the SW MOTO crash bars from a 15 thru 18 Versys will fit the 2019 new bike. Well no they won't. Mounting points are the same but the Faring and cornering light panels of the 19 get in the way of the bars. Guess I will have to sell them to my son-in-law. He has a 15 model. Also the Givi Tank lock ring from the earlier models will not fit. Different tank filler setup.

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