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I checked it out on line, excited to see it on the showroom floor but prolly not in my garage. Kinda expensive. You can buy a FJR for that price, and quite frankly, for that price I would rater have a FJR. Love my 650LT, but it is a different class of bike. Ahhh, there are so many choices out there!
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I checked it out on line, excited to see it on the showroom floor but prolly not in my garage. Kinda expensive. You can buy a FJR for that price, and quite frankly, for that price I would rater have a FJR. Love my 650LT, but it is a different class of bike. Ahhh, there are so many choices out there!
I think it all comes down to what you want out of the bike. The FJR is 100lbs heavier, but does have shaft drive, it also has a much more aggressive riding position. The extra power of a Multistrada or S1000XR isn't really usable outside of a track. Performance wise the FJR and V1k are closer than you think simply because of the weight difference.

You can still get a less expensive V1k with everything but the quick shifter and electronic suspension as well, just as you can get a less expensive FJR minus the electronic suspension. Though the least expensive examples of Multistrada 1260 and S1000XR also comes sans quick shifter and electronic suspension and are still pushing 20 grand.

For me personally the V1k SE is within my price range and for what I want in terms of an upgrade from my V650 it is about spot on. A 180hp german rocketship sounds fun, until you realize that you will rarely ever get into that powerband. I've test ridden a GSXR-1000 and frankly you can't use that bike above 10,000rpm anywhere but a track, things simply start happening too fast once that bike hits its powerband, but that bike has also completely sold me on the Showa Balance Free fork which the new V1k also has, the handling on that GSXR was incredible, even if the riding position was horribly uncomfortable (as are all super sports).
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I think it all comes down to what you want out of the bike. The FJR is 100lbs heavier, but does have shaft drive, it also has a much more aggressive riding position. The extra power of a Multistrada or S1000XR isn't really usable outside of a track.
Two points. First, I've tested the S1000XR and you're right about it being excessively powerful but it isn't just the overall power that makes that particular bike so great, the handling is amazing, and the weight is just over 500lbs. Incredibly nimble, fast and comfortable. It's an exceptional motorcycle. My biggest gripe with S1000XR is the expectedly awful mpg. Having said that I've never tested the Versys 1000 but I've tried. Kawasaki doesn't seem to have many opportunities with it's demo fleet here in New England.

Secondly, I agree with you about the comfort and weight difference between the big V and an FJR. That makes a big difference to me as I really don't want a bike that tips the scales well over 600lbs.

Then of course there is the Tracer GT, lower cost, low weight, features and power. Just not a very good looking bike to my eye. And come on, make the bags fit a full faced helmet.


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Two points. First, I've tested the S1000XR and you're right about it being excessively powerful but it isn't just the overall power that makes that particular bike so great, the handling is amazing, and the weight is just over 500lbs. Incredibly nimble, fast and comfortable. It's an exceptional motorcycle. My biggest gripe with S1000XR is the expectedly awful mpg. Having said that I've never tested the Versys 1000 but I've tried. Kawasaki doesn't seem to have many opportunities with it's demo fleet here in New England.

Secondly, I agree with you about the comfort and weight difference between the big V and an FJR. That makes a big difference to me as I really don't want a bike that tips the scales well over 600lbs..


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That's one reason I keep the luggage on my V650 nearly 100% of the time. They keep the bike propped up a bit so it doesn't have to be picked up from all the way down if I drop it. I feel 25 yrs old but in reality this body isn't what it used to be.
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Nice to see all that technology on the 2019 Verysys, but I was really looking forward to see more of a Versys 650X or 1000X that was more suited for off road travels. I think if you throw that in the mix, that would be exciting.
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I like that Kawasaki is updating the bike. I own a 2017 V1k and love it. Shame they put so much effort in the bike and still dump it in tar - hideous and dangerous black color schemes.

I love the new electronics for cruise control, dash and lighting. Improvements were definitely needed there - especially the lights. Engine performance is damned near flawless on mine. Don't see how they can make that better. No complaints.

While this is definitely a cool bike, I will not be buying it. I hope they keep the 'standard' V1k offered or I suspect they will be losing lots of customers.

I love my bike, but for $17k starting price, I would explore other options more seriously before buying it.

The one thing I can say after my first year with my bike, it is lovely on the road but definitely struggles on even light trails. This is definitely an on road bike. This year we will be looking at the V650 for the first time for off-road work. Excited to see that one at work and play.

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I like that Kawasaki is updating the bike. I own a 2017 V1k and love it. Shame they put so much effort in the bike and still dump it in tar - hideous and dangerous black color schemes.

I love the new electronics for cruise control, dash and lighting. Improvements were definitely needed there - especially the lights. Engine performance is damned near flawless on mine. Don't see how they can make that better. No complaints.

While this is definitely a cool bike, I will not be buying it. I hope they keep the 'standard' V1k offered or I suspect they will be losing lots of customers.

I love my bike, but for $17k starting price, I would explore other options more seriously before buying it.

The one thing I can say after my first year with my bike, it is lovely on the road but definitely struggles on even light trails. This is definitely an on road bike. This year we will be looking at the V650 for the first time for off-road work. Excited to see that one at work and play.
The v650 is also a street bike. There are a lot better trail specific bikes out there. Sure you can make the V650 a capable bike for light duty off-road, but that is true for just about any bike made today.
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I agree. We use BMW GS800's off road now. Good but not inspiring. Probably one of the best out there though. Would love to find both. Maybe a bridge too far?

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The v650 is also a street bike. There are a lot better trail specific bikes out there. Sure you can make the V650 a capable bike for light duty off-road, but that is true for just about any bike made today.
You're right. Although it is a tall looking bike is not an off road bike. There are better suited machines for that.

For me one of the biggest selling points is the ride by wire trotle and the ability to have Cruise control for longer rides.

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...This year we will be looking at the V650 for the first time for off-road work. Excited to see that one at work and play.
I've seen a FEW miles of 'dirt' on my three V650s....











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I agree. We use BMW GS800's off road now. Good but not inspiring. Probably one of the best out there though. Would love to find both. Maybe a bridge too far?
When I test-rode the GS800 BEFORE getting my first V650, I felt the V was the better bike, FWIW.
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I like that Kawasaki is updating the bike. I own a 2017 V1k and love it. Shame they put so much effort in the bike and still dump it in tar - hideous and dangerous black color schemes.

I love the new electronics for cruise control, dash and lighting. Improvements were definitely needed there - especially the lights. Engine performance is damned near flawless on mine. Don't see how they can make that better. No complaints.

While this is definitely a cool bike, I will not be buying it. I hope they keep the 'standard' V1k offered or I suspect they will be losing lots of customers.

I love my bike, but for $17k starting price, I would explore other options more seriously before buying it.

The one thing I can say after my first year with my bike, it is lovely on the road but definitely struggles on even light trails. This is definitely an on road bike. This year we will be looking at the V650 for the first time for off-road work. Excited to see that one at work and play.
There is a non-SE version as well, loses the electronic suspension, cornering lights, quickshifter, TFT dash and bluetooth connectivity, but keeps the cruise control, hopefully a non-electronic version of the Showa Balance Free fork, and the IMU and cornering ABS.

The Tracer GT is definitely much cheaper, but doesn't have nearly the features of the SE. I would expect a non-SE V1k to be priced around where the previous V1k was or maybe a little more.

Another wild card is the new Multistrada 950S, it may be priced close to the V1k SE and picks up the electronic skyhook suspension and TFT dash from the 1260S, also all versions of the Multi 950 get standard cruise control for 2019. A wire wheel Multistrada 950 Enduro is also coming alongside the new 1260 Enduro.

A BMW R1200RS is also just a smidgen over 19k when equipped to the level of the V1k SE LT+, though the RS is going to be a more aggressive riding position. A comparable R1250GS is north of 24k.
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It will be interesting to see what their 'stripped down" version keeps and let's go! I would like to see new lights, TFT and the electronics like cruise control! Oh yes - new colors and perhaps a gas gauge that works before the first half tank is gone too.

I really love my bike. No bike is perfect, but mine is close to perfect for me.

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If the Triumph Tiger Sport receives an update like the bigger brother this could also be a nice ride If the price is right.

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