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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 08-27-2018, 07:41 PM Thread Starter
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"Operation Eliminate Chicken-Strips"

I set out on a mission this past weekend. I called it "Operation Eliminate Chicken-Strips". The mission? Find the most twisty mountain roads Vermont has to offer. The goal? Prove to the moto-world that I am not a chicken!! Haha.

So I confess, I still have these chicken-strips on my tires. I think I discovered that if I want to get rid of these, I'll have to drag knee. This bike can corner! (Much different than my previous cruiser.)

I did learn a lot on my quest. My bike's capabilities are going to keep me having a lot of fun! Maybe I should look into a track day for those pesky chicken strips.

Here are some pics from my weekend in Vermont. I stayed near Killington. Took route 100 the whole way up, then cut through some other mountain roads. (Next time I will go further North to route 17, which is supposed to be really twisty, according to someone who shared on motorcycle-roads.com)

Final pic is rear tire, before (left), and after (right). Can't tell much difference. Oh well. Had fun trying.

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Also want to add that stiffening up the suspension makes for a more sporty feel! It is more flickable, and actually feels more planted at highway speed.

I may of over done it though. What is a click? I need to read some threads on suspension settings. I did one full revolution on the left and right front forks. Then did a half a crank on the two rear pre-load and dampening.

The front feels a bit stiff now that I'm back to the pothole roads in Massachusetts. May have to soften the front.

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So I confess, I still have these chicken-strips on my tires. I think I discovered that if I want to get rid of these, I'll have to drag knee. This bike can corner! (Much different than my previous cruiser.)


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Those are also referred to as the "nubs of shame"...
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Good job, a bit of a different world that putting around on a cruiser.

It's amazing how capable a lot of bikes are, way more than most can tolerate but a nice safety cushion iffn you need it.


i've ridden Shinko 705's to where there is no chicken strip but haven't quite gotten there with Pirelli Angels or Bridgestone 023's. Next up will be Roadsmart III's. Close, but oh well...

I still haven't scraped a foot peg and I have leaned her over pretty good.
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Don't worry about the strips. Worrying about "chicken strips" is for young boys with something to prove. Most public roads these days have too many possible issues (bumps, holes, gravel, deer, dirt, etc., etc.) to be truly safe riding at the limits of your traction. If the strips bother you, you can take it to the track so you will have a controlled environment. Have fun and stay safe!

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Good job, a bit of a different world that putting around on a cruiser.

It's amazing how capable a lot of bikes are, way more than most can tolerate but a nice safety cushion iffn you need it.


i've ridden Shinko 705's to where there is no chicken strip but haven't quite gotten there with Pirelli Angels or Bridgestone 023's. Next up will be Roadsmart III's. Close, but oh well...

I still haven't scraped a foot peg and I have leaned her over pretty good.
Some of us don't putt around on our cruisers.

I don't ride the sporty bikes any faster because of other hazards like sight distance and debris and tractors and such, but the sporty bikes do take less skill and concentration. In other words, more forgiving and easier to change a line.

Unless you ride dirt, you should always have some chicken strips on your bike. That lets you know you have a little more if the situation warrants it on the road. If you use all your tire and then have to adjust your line you have no where to go but low side.

Also, flatter profile tires use up more of the traction part of the tire than rounder profile tires so you can't go by chicken strips to determine how far you lean over. On top of that poor cornering practices can lead to no chicken strips while going slower than someone who uses good cornering practices.

So, while you say that you would have to put a knee down to get rid of the rest of your chicken strip, the reality is that if you stay perpendicular to the road surface you will have to lean the bike over further to navigate the curve than if you lean in with your knee out.
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...I still haven't scraped a foot peg and I have leaned her over pretty good.
Did THAT several times (YEARS ago... in AZ!), but ONLY my left 'peg.

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...That lets you know you have a little more if the situation warrants it on the road. If you use all your tire and then have to adjust your line you have no where to go but low side....
UNLESS you "drop your inside shoulder" which will give you some MORE 'lean'....
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Grateful for these comments. After being on a cruiser, with very easy to scrape floorboards, I also believe I learned how to navigate a corner.

Technique can give more leeway. I would like the ability to turn in more, if needed. (And I did learn this bike is very capable.) Guess it's good that I'm not riding like a maniac on the streets? Haha.

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I always end up scraping my boot before it reaches the peg, must be how I sit.
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I always end up scraping my boot before it reaches the peg, must be how I sit.
I slide my feet back so the balls of my feet are on the pegs when I am not shifting or braking.
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Somebody needs a little Twist of the Wrist in their lives. Knee dragging has turned into a fashion statement, guys/gals are trying way to hard to hang off just to look cool. If you watch a real road race like Isle of Man or Ulster etc that's riding the street as maximum, not a lot of knee dragging going on there compared to something like Moto GP.
Watch the video below, soak it up. Go try stuff, watch again. You'll be cornering far healthier in time. Improve in little bits safely. Eventually you'll hit your fear threshold which will likely determine how fast you end up going.



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I slide my feet back so the balls of my feet are on the pegs when I am not shifting or braking.
Best advice, not fun having your foot ripped off the peg. It'll become second nature if you practice it as a habit.
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Also want to add that stiffening up the suspension makes for a more sporty feel! It is more flickable, and actually feels more planted at highway speed.

I may of over done it though. What is a click? I need to read some threads on suspension settings. I did one full revolution on the left and right front forks. Then did a half a crank on the two rear pre-load and dampening.

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Somebody needs a little Twist of the Wrist in their lives. Knee dragging has turned into a fashion statement, guys/gals are trying way to hard to hang off just to look cool. If you watch a real road race like Isle of Man or Ulster etc that's riding the street as maximum, not a lot of knee dragging going on there compared to something like Moto GP.
Watch the video below, soak it up. Go try stuff, watch again. You'll be cornering far healthier in time. Improve in little bits safely. Eventually you'll hit your fear threshold which will likely determine how fast you end up going.



I don't have chicken strips.
My fear is not how far I can lean over the motorcycle, but how far over the speed limit I have to go to get to the edge of the tire. I need a clean driver's license to keep my insurance rates low and to continue to travel for work. A license suspension could cost me my job. Leave the illegal speeds to the track where they are legal.

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I downloaded the Yamaha MyRide app. Pretty handy, tells me my actual top speed, average speed, lean angles and shows me a map of my trip. All free.

I also learned I have developed a bad habit of leaning the bike but not myself through turns. I'm working on that, but I could probably use a refresher course.

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I slide my feet back so the balls of my feet are on the pegs when I am not shifting or braking.
This must be why I am scraping pinky toe and not peg lol
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I always end up scraping my boot before it reaches the peg, must be how I sit.
SUGGEST you start riding on the balls of your feet on the 'pegs.

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...I also learned I have developed a bad habit of leaning the bike but not myself through turns....
Sounds like you learned to ride on dirt.
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Naw... Only dirt riding I've done was either by mistake or on accident. Always wanted to try it, though.

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