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Possibly thinking going to Versys 1000LT from 650LT

Just as I've got my 2016 650LT the way I want it, my wife now says she want to ride with me again! She had told me her riding days were over, then she got a hip replacement and now is good to go. I'm over 6 feet and 240ish and I'm concerned the 650 may be too "snug" for us. At minimum, I would need to add a top box with a backrest. The last bike we rode together was a 92 Yamaha Venture Royalle; an incredibly comfortable and roomy bike.

I know the 1000LT is an awesome bike. I'm reaching out to you folks that have made the switch to see if it's worth it, and what all I would gain and immediately notice as a two up bike.
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You would definitely gain power and room. The fun quotient would still pretty much be there.
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I'm 6'2" and easy 300lbs my girl is small about 5'5" and 120lbs. The V-650 had plenty of room for the both of us. I had a Givi E-55 topcase with the backrest pad on it. It handled both of us well and the power was okay also. She loved the 650 and was pissed when i got rid of it. If your going to do long rides together than i would look at the V-1000. She only feels safe on the bike when its has the topcase on it. I got the V-1000 so it would be better for me 2-up than the FJR i had at the time. She went on the test ride with me on the big V and told me to buy it. But since i brought mine home in July of 2016 she hasn't ridden with me once...

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Heres the first time she ever rode with me...Skip the first 10 minutes and its take you to Ortega Hwy. You can see the bike has now issues with power or handling. My bike has a 16T front sprocket on it....

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First of all, I think it's great your wife is interested in riding again. Well done her!

Though I've never ridden one, I believe the V1000 might be a good choice. The Versys line has developed a good reputation for handling, reliability and comfort (for some backsides at least) and there are more farkles available than can be counted.

My left hip was replaced four years ago and fortunately it's had little effect on my riding abilities. On the other hand, advancing age and reduced upper body strength has limited the total bike weight I'm comfortable with and that would make the V1000 a non-starter for me.

I've been very pleased with the Versys 650 for every day riding and light touring (me and luggage) but for long distance heavy touring our vehicle of choice is a Can Am Spyder RT-S. Some would consider this to be heresy and not a "real" motorcycle but it's pretty hard to beat for long trips. And, importantly, I don't have to worry about having to pick it up or balance it while pushing it around. Beyond the stability of three wheels with correct configuration (two wheels in front) is has a 6 speed semi-automatic "flappy paddle" gearbox with reverse, ABS, stability control, traction control, dynamic power steering, automatic adjusting rear suspension, electrically adjustable windscreen, electronic cruise control, heated everything, a good stereo, and tons of integrated storage space. And, surprisingly, it's not expensive to insure despite it's cost because it is not considered a sport machine and, apparently, Spyder RT models are only ridden by responsible mature people (and me). How about that!

If I was younger and stronger and had all my original joints, and was considering a two wheel touring machine - that didn't weigh as much as a small house - I'd place the V1000 at the top of my short list in a heart beat. Good fortune and enjoy whatever you select.
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First of all, I think it's great your wife is interested in riding again. Well done her!

Though I've never ridden one, I believe the V1000 might be a good choice. The Versys line has developed a good reputation for handling, reliability and comfort (for some backsides at least) and there are more farkles available than can be counted.

My left hip was replaced four years ago and fortunately it's had little effect on my riding abilities. On the other hand, advancing age and reduced upper body strength has limited the total bike weight I'm comfortable with and that would make the V1000 a non-starter for me.

I've been very pleased with the Versys 650 for every day riding and light touring (me and luggage) but for long distance heavy touring our vehicle of choice is a Can Am Spyder RT-S. Some would consider this to be heresy and not a "real" motorcycle but it's pretty hard to beat for long trips. And, importantly, I don't have to worry about having to pick it up or balance it while pushing it around. Beyond the stability of three wheels with correct configuration (two wheels in front) is has a 6 speed semi-automatic "flappy paddle" gearbox with reverse, ABS, stability control, traction control, dynamic power steering, automatic adjusting rear suspension, electrically adjustable windscreen, electronic cruise control, heated everything, a good stereo, and tons of integrated storage space. And, surprisingly, it's not expensive to insure despite it's cost because it is not considered a sport machine and, apparently, Spyder RT models are only ridden by responsible mature people (and me). How about that!

If I was younger and stronger and had all my original joints, and was considering a two wheel touring machine - that didn't weigh as much as a small house - I'd place the V1000 at the top of my short list in a heart beat. Good fortune and enjoy whatever you select.


Since i have owned both V-650 and V-1000 I find the 1000 easier to maneuver and handle than the 650 and i have a bad hip and knees.
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Since i have owned both V-650 and V-1000 I find the 1000 easier to maneuver and handle than the 650 and i have a bad hip and knees.

I'll readily admit that that surprises me. Why is that so do you feel?

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I'll readily admit that that surprises me. Why is that so do you feel?


The 1000 just seems better balanced than my 09 650 did...

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Yep, Personally i would get the V-1000 but i would at least put a topcase on the 650 and see how it works for you and also she might change her mind again. ( I hear women tend to do that ) Before i spent the money on a bigger bike..
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Yep, Personally i would get the V-1000 but i would at least put a topcase on the 650 and see how it works for you and also she might change her mind again. ( I hear women tend to do that ) Before i spent the money on a bigger bike..
Opps , I forgot that part....Women , and you are right my friend
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Yep, Personally i would get the V-1000 but i would at least put a topcase on the 650 and see how it works for you and also she might change her mind again. ( I hear women tend to do that ) Before i spent the money on a bigger bike..
I think I'll do the topcase first as you suggest, and yes my wife has been known to change her mind! Your bike sure sounds as if it's running at a far less frantic pace (RPM's) than my 650 at highway speeds. How would you compare vibration, and ride quality?

If it weighs more, but has a lower center of gravity, that would explain your feeling of being easier to handle at low speeds.
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I think I'll do the topcase first as you suggest, and yes my wife has been known to change her mind! Your bike sure sounds as if it's running at a far less frantic pace (RPM's) than my 650 at highway speeds. How would you compare vibration, and ride quality?

If it weighs more, but has a lower center of gravity, that would explain your feeling of being easier to handle at low speeds.

When i put the 16T front sprocket on it lowered the RPM's by 500 doing 70mph. The sprocket change made the bike more manageable at lower speeds and was still quick when you needed it to be.My bike had a Yosi on it so it was louder than most.
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Seems that you should try out how she does with the bike you have. For just the occasional jaunt it should do well. Unless, of course you just have new-bike-fever.
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I wouldn`t mind riding the 1000 to do a compare.

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FWIW - I got to do a trial-ride on a '12 V1000 for a couple of hours a few years ago (for Alaskjeff who was thinking of getting one from Canada, BEFORE they became available in the US).

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I actually went from a 2015 650 to a 2016 1000. I love the 1000, and I agree it is really easy to handle. To me it doesn't even seem any heavier. You get nice extras included like the rear rack mount and a center stand, the slipper/assist clutch is a bit weird at first but I love it now. Tons of power all over the rev range, I'm really glad I made the switch.
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The 1000 just seems better balanced than my 09 650 did...
I've noticed the same thing.

I test rode both a FJ-09 and Ninja 1k today and both were better balanced and easier to U-turn than my 09 V650.

Especially surprising considering how vague and touchy the FJ-09 throttle is.

I am really wanting to test ride a V 1k now. The FJ-09 has a bizarre riding position (pegs are lower and further back than the Versys, feels really strange) and an awful stock seat in addition to the weird throttle. The Ninja 1k I test rode was a 2015 and was a tad vibey and desperately needs a 190/55 rear tire (standard literbike with the too flat profile 190/50 rear that makes the bike not want to lean).
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...I test rode both a FJ-09 and Ninja 1k today and both were better balanced and easier to U-turn than my 09 V650....
Just a thought - TRY a Gen 3 650 TOO. I got a '15 650LT when my '09 650 was an "insurance-write-off" back in July '15 (...and haven't ridden it since mid-Oct, so I can't give a current opinion). Perhaps it and the V1000 are closer in 'handling' than the Gen 1 '09 is...?


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You might also want to try a Concours. While not as nimble as the Versys 650, I like the way it handles and it really feels planted when cruising at highway speeds -- my 13 year old son rides with me and he likes not feeling as blown around on the highway. Adds a few more creature comforts and no chain maintenance. You can often find deals on leftover prior year models.

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