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Head On with a fire truck

He survived with a few broken bones...

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That section of road he's on is the easiest in that area. If he wrecked there he shouldn't be riding at all. The road there is narrow with no center line. You will meet cars and motorcycles in your lane around corners and you have to watch out for bicyclist.. Heres that same road on the Versys...https://youtu.be/S26_tz437f8?t=32m15s

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That dude is one lucky MF! A good reminder to us to ride at a speed so that we can stop in the distance in sight. It's hard, especially on a beautiful day on a generally empty road. I've taken the risk of riding faster than my sight distance and I consider myself a pretty safe rider. I'll rethink that moving forward...

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talk about target fixation...
He literally rode right into that truck. Looks like all he had to do was stay away from the brakes and lean some more.
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That section of road he's on is the easiest in that area. If he wrecked there he shouldn't be riding at all. The road there is narrow with no center line. You will meet cars and motorcycles in your lane around corners and you have to watch out for bicyclist.. Heres that same road on the Versys...https://youtu.be/S26_tz437f8?t=32m15s
He hit a large dip in the road in the corner and it sent his bars wagging. Been there, done that, and glad there wasn't a fire truck coming the other way at the time.

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Heres a better quality video from his own channel....


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Same road different guy you can see that they think its a one way road or something.


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yikes... it wasn't a fire truck though, just a big truck.

i'll say again, yikes... very pleased to hear he survived and in relatively good shape.

yikes ... I was in a pretty bad accident a few years ago and don't really remember it either, but the scene reminds me of it.

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Ouch. And Tommyboy wants to know why he gets a twitch when riding into blind corners. He's either instinctively smart or he's watched too many of these videos...
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As an old firefighter I feel for the Driver-Pumper-Operator. It's the worse nightmare for him. I had few close calls with people just knowing they can get away with cutting it close BUT not like this. The rider is a very lucky man as you rarely win or break even with a fire engine. Ours hit the scales at over 16 tons!

We had one guy who was in an accident with a small unit and he refused to drive afterwards.

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Now that I watch that again, I'm not sure it was a dip that got him. Looked like he saw the truck and his hand went for the front brake. I think he grabbed too much and released and got the head shaking.
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On the upside, hitting a fire truck with trained paramedics on board is almost as "lucky" as hitting an ambulance. Fortunate he survived. This is why I don't like to ride near my limit on public roads where the unexpected can occur.

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Now that I watch that again, I'm not sure it was a dip that got him. Looked like he saw the truck and his hand went for the front brake. I think he grabbed too much and released and got the head shaking.
grabbed front brake, bike stood up, and front dove, causing him to twist the troutle open, causing the front to pick up, and try to lean again , then the front tire grabbed again, bike stood up, and front dove, causing him to twist the troutle open ,causing the front to pick up, and try to lean again..and again and again.. till pump truck bumper helped him stop

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Now that I watch that again, I'm not sure it was a dip that got him. Looked like he saw the truck and his hand went for the front brake. I think he grabbed too much and released and got the head shaking.

I've been on that road plenty of times. No dips or holes in the road only thing is lots of tar snakes.

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LOL, fire engines. Those guys don't get any sleep with fires at night, they are overtime whores, and then they sleep under a HUGE microwave tower (they don't sleep when they are asleep at the fire house.) A nursing instructor who's husband was a firefighter always complained how the microwaves negatively affected his sex life.

The truck looked like he was edging into the curve and was coming pretty quick into the picture himself! For public safety, Fire trucks should be driven by off site drivers. I've seen firemen in El Pollo Loco who were asleep while they were standing in line, bragging about their low wage mega overtime staying up for 5 days in a row: the fires never stop in LA county.

Their poor hearts beat a half years worth in a couple of 5-days shifts alone. Lack of oxygen and cardiomegaly shorten their lifespan significantly in big cities esp. Even if their siren is not going, it's a good idea to pull over when you see them coming on the road!
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From watching the video IMHO, his riding style did not indicate enough experience to keep up with his friend plus going around a blind curve too far over and too fast for his abilities. Had a rider go down right behind me couple of weeks ago doing almost the same thing.
I flinch every time I see the collision. Sure am glad he survived - he was lucky.








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grabbed front brake, bike stood up, and front dove, causing him to twist the troutle open, causing the front to pick up, and try to lean again , then the front tire grabbed again, bike stood up, and front dove, causing him to twist the troutle open ,causing the front to pick up, and try to lean again..and again and again.. till pump truck bumper helped him stop
If it took that much effort to wag the bars, no one could do it and there'd be no need for steering dampers.

A simple stab/release of the brake while leaned was all it took to set those bars wagging. Once they get going, control is near impossible. Best hope is to try to get on the gas and get the front airborne, but there was no time for that in this episode.

I've only had a steering damper on one bike (my Zrex) and it was a beaut. Made by a company called Scotts.

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The issue that that bike had was the front end getting light exiting corners. When it would come back to earth leaned over (a little crossed up) it would get the bars oscillating, though not near to the extent that our fireman fighter's did.

I remember reading somewhere that Eddie Lawson used to like sensation.
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A quick counter steer to the right, with no braking, would have avoided this crash. "Push right - to go right." Practice is essential.
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