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wolves make everything better in yellowstone

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Fascinating transformation. Wolves sure are beautiful. I love how they howl too. They're better at controlling wildlife than I ever conceived... We have some around here, as well as all the other species mentioned, all living in harmony.
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Simply not true! For the re-introduction area!

In fact they have a season and are selling tags for the wolf. The moose counts are extremely low and we may loose them completely.

How sad no more moose because some people thought huge wolves not even original wolves be brought back to an area.

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Makes me want to go out and hug a tree.
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Wolves are hunted here as well. No concerns for our moose count though.

http://www.kapriveroutfitters.ca/wolfhunt.html

http://www.military.com/entertainmen...f-hunting.html

I know wolves are considered as being a problem in some areas... I'm glad we're not screwed over
with wild hogs in Canada, yet.

This is just behind my home, featuring our own 'North America's most recognized wolf expert":


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That's what we need down here, wolves to eat the hogs.
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+1 on that mitty. I'm in TX.
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It would be extremely rare to find a federally funded program these days that is even remotely as successful as the video would have one believe. I found myself indulging in a little wishful thinking when I watched it. I can say,i have seen some pretty amazing results from the work done where I live by the ky.game and fish dept. ----state ---not federal of course. I don't actually know, but I assumed this was not a state run undertaking as the u.s. gov. owns the land.
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Everything in balance. We need predators; uncontrolled, their prey cause a lot of damage. Witness the rise of deer in North America. There are now more than when Europeans came here. I read somewhere that deer now are found in every state of the US and every Canadian province. Over grazing prevents new growth of trees, then more erosion. Too damn many of them around here, we have an increasing number of deer/vehicle collisions every year. On top of that fewer young people are hunting, too busy indoors playing video games? Who will be the predator now?

Nothing wrong with wolves, we need them, and if their numbers get too high, there is nothing wrong with a controlled hunt.
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Hunting in the U.S. has become a rich man's sport like Europe.
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Hunting in the U.S. has become a rich man's sport like Europe.
I didn't know that. Too bad, hunting and fishing should be part of young people's lives. There are many lessons learned and hunter/fishermen generally have a greater respect for nature.

I used the term fishermen as a tradition, nothing to do with sexism. My buddies pregnant daughter bagged her first deer last year, then went to hospital the next day and had her first child! She herself says "fisherman".
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Hunting in the U.S. has become a rich man's sport like Europe.
Not even remotly true. Flying around the world to go on trophy hunts is a rich mans "sport". But deere/turkey hunting is far from a rich mans sport.
I live in 2 areas during the year. 1 is very rural and not very affluential. Most of the guys I know there and many of the girls hunt. The other area I live is typical surburban area and where I grew up. I would say 1/3 of my friends growing up were hunters or fishermen.

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Aint much public land to speak of in Texas. Leases start at $1,000 gun 'round here. Unless you have a family farm like I do or or into road hunting, you are pretty much out of luck.

During bird and deer season this place is crawlin' with commandos from Houston pulling trailer loads of 4 wheelers in camoflage Surburbans. They probably bought 'em with Lone Star cards.

Ya reckon introduced wolves would keep the vistors from Mexico out?

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[QUOTE=Smiley;537122]Everything in balance.

Have you ever read "The Story Of B"?

We are so past that point!





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This is from an authoritative source: http://www.nps.gov/yell/naturescience/wolves.htm

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This is from an authoritative source: http://www.nps.gov/yell/naturescience/wolves.htm
What your "authoritive source" forgot to mention in that piece was that they did not bring in the same species of wolves. The original species was a smaller type. The Canadien wolves that were brought in instead are 30% larger and much more aggressive and dominent.

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Here's more local wolf hunting led by Peter Martin on 'Relentless Pursuit'... A few years before, a hunter from USA did get killed while chasing a wolf down a snowmobile trail, as he ran a stop sign and was run over by a logging truck. His son wasn't far behind.

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The original species was extirpated, and the Grey Wolf was migrating naturally from Canada to fill the spot in the ecosystem. Coyotes are 1/3 smaller than the Grey Wolf and can't bring down the big ungulates. Here's another source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...in_Yellowstone

There's a lot of controversy around it, for sure. Not something we're going to resolve in this thread. Howl on!

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Its the re-intro area that is the problem. It will come out in about five years in gov reports, or not.

Houston we have a problem.





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With the notable exception of Fast Eddie Copeman, has anything beneficial come out of Canada? Just curious.

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