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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 05-20-2019, 11:32 PM Thread Starter
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Invited on a road trip today

One of the Harley guys at work invited me on a road trip with them later this year. When I declined, he asked me if I'm "one of those local only p***ies?"

I got my calculator out and figured the required furl budget for this little outing he has planned. $786 according to my math. That's just for fuel. Prolly sittin' this one out.

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Your ride or tour should be a pain to your budget. Good for you to decline the ride..Ride within your means
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One of the Harley guys at work invited me on a road trip with them later this year. When I declined, he asked me if I'm "one of those local only p***ies?"

I got my calculator out and figured the required furl budget for this little outing he has planned. $786 according to my math. That's just for fuel. Prolly sittin' this one out.
How much is fuel where you live? How the hell far is his "little outing" going?

I'm paying about four and a half cents a mile here in Dull-Aware, even just putzing round the city. At that rate, I can go over seventeen thousand miles for $786. On the freeway at 80 or 85, prolly more like 18,000. On the country roads, I average over 70mpg. That's less than three and a half cents a mile. You're talking well in excess of 23,000 miles.

Either the decimals are getting frisky on you or this guy wants to criss-cross the country ten times. What's the trip?
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How much is fuel where you live? How the hell far is his "little outing" going?



I'm paying about four and a half cents a mile here in Dull-Aware, even just putzing round the city. At that rate, I can go over seventeen thousand miles for $786. On the freeway at 80 or 85, prolly more like 18,000. On the country roads, I average over 70mpg. That's less than three and a half cents a mile. You're talking well in excess of 23,000 miles.



Either the decimals are getting frisky on you or this guy wants to criss-cross the country ten times. What's the trip?
Modesto to Daytona Beach... I assumed $3.999 a gallon on a V1 (38 mpg). I used to be a construction estimator, so I tend to include a bit of a buffer.

They also want to take 3 weeks off to do it. 4 days down, 3 days there and 6bdays back plus 4 days to recover... The idea of doing the longest possible trip first sounds exactly like me... But not this time.

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Modesto to Daytona Beach... I assumed $3.999 a gallon on a V1 (38 mpg). I used to be a construction estimator, so I tend to include a bit of a buffer.

They also want to take 3 weeks off to do it. 4 days down, 3 days there and 6bdays back plus 4 days to recover... The idea of doing the longest possible trip first sounds exactly like me... But not this time.
Sounds like you estimated yourself right out of a trip that you really didn't want to take in the first place. We are paying $2.40 a gallon for 87 here in the southeast.

38 mpg? Damn that sucks! I get 55 mpg on my 107 Harley Road Glide cruising down the interstate!

My estimate for fuel would be $302 using $3 a gallon.
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A coast to coast trip is a bucket list item. You get to see a great part of the country. Just make sure you get along with the guys you riding with.
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If you are doing this trip in the summer you will definitely sweat. It will be miserable hot, with crazy high humidity once you cross TX. One of the reasons I bought a trailer to get to the nice, cool elevations out west.

For a better line on gas prices, Gas Buddy is your friend. And yeah, you are way high. Gas in central FLA is running 2.60 +/- currently and it is cheaper across the Gulf coast.

I do quite a bit of mc touring. It is my life's passion. Usually alone, but if with someone it is with the understanding and capacity that we can split off if the mood desires, with no hard feelings and meet up later maybe and talk about our adventures over adult beverages, or not. I did ride once with five other riders to Eureka Springs, AR for a rally, about a thousand miles. I don't ever foresee the circumstances where I would travel with that many again, and we had known each other for several years and ridden short rides before.

I've also found that traveling alone encourages the locals to initiate conversations. That is totally way cool. A great source for local info: great roads, places to camp and or eat, etc...

Feel free to discuss more if you want. And do get there, somewhere, some time.
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$3.29 / gallon here for mid grade.

Long distance interstate highway droning is not my favorite kind of riding. I wouldn't be interested in that kind of a ride, at least not on a Versys. If it were back roads with lots of local attractions along the way, yeah maybe. For me, the freeway is a necessary evil to get me somewhere I can do or see something. The freeway ride is not the goal.

I don't blame you for passing on the trip.
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If you are doing this trip in the summer you will definitely sweat. It will be miserable hot, with crazy high humidity once you cross TX. One of the reasons I bought a trailer to get to the nice, cool elevations out west.

For a better line on gas prices, Gas Buddy is your friend. And yeah, you are way high. Gas in central FLA is running 2.60 +/- currently and it is cheaper across the Gulf coast.

I do quite a bit of mc touring. It is my life's passion. Usually alone, but if with someone it is with the understanding and capacity that we can split off if the mood desires, with no hard feelings and meet up later maybe and talk about our adventures over adult beverages, or not. I did ride once with five other riders to Eureka Springs, AR for a rally, about a thousand miles. I don't ever foresee the circumstances where I would travel with that many again, and we had known each other for several years and ridden short rides before.

I've also found that traveling alone encourages the locals to initiate conversations. That is totally way cool. A great source for local info: great roads, places to camp and or eat, etc...

Feel free to discuss more if you want. And do get there, somewhere, some time.
Been there, done that. Cooling Vest replenished every hour! hydration bladder with hose constantly in my mouth.

I picked up the enclosed trailer last summer and am loving it! I do wish I could have found a used ironhorse trailer because it doesn't put the strain on fuel economy, but hits the wallet hard on the purchase. I've trailered out to NM and CO twice, to FL a couple times, and have some trips planned. Now I can haul to the BRP elevations and ride from the campground without ever having to go through the 95 degee rain forest humidity to get there.

I am glad I had those riding experiences though.
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I picked up the enclosed trailer last summer and am loving it!
The Wife can't make the long trips (on the back of a motorcycle) anymore and I miss her when she's not around. We also got an enclosed trailer last year and she has discovered "shopping" along the way. Isn't it amazing how much "stuff" you can shove into one of those trailers ?



The fuel mileage sucks, but if you take the net $$$ increase and add it up, then it's rarely more than a couple hundred added onto the cost of the vacation. I can live with that.
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A cross country trip with people you don't know all that well? This will not end well.

You haven't even signed on for the trip, and you're already being insulted. That should tell you something.
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How much is fuel where you live? How the hell far is his "little outing" going?

I'm paying about four and a half cents a mile here in Dull-Aware, even just putzing round the city. At that rate, I can go over seventeen thousand miles for $786. On the freeway at 80 or 85, prolly more like 18,000. On the country roads, I average over 70mpg. That's less than three and a half cents a mile. You're talking well in excess of 23,000 miles.

Either the decimals are getting frisky on you or this guy wants to criss-cross the country ten times. What's the trip?
My best average fuel mileage is 26 KM/Liter which works out to 70 miles per gallon. Our gas price average is $1.20 a liter or $5.40 a gallon, so my cost is $0.077 per mile or double your cost.
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You haven't even signed on for the trip, and you're already being insulted. That should tell you something.
Maybe it's just slang that means, "come 'on, it'll be fun"

i.e. - in Missouri, "I love you" comes out as "Get in truck, bioch"


And then there's "here, hold my beer" - which actually means "HEY ! WATCH THIS !!!"
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I paid $4.499 a gallon last night.

38 mpg average isn't bad for a V1 in California, I assumed 39 mpg when estimating fuel cost for the trip. I very intentionally estimated high.

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The fuel mileage sucks, but if you take the net $$$ increase and add it up, then it's rarely more than a couple hundred added onto the cost of the vacation. I can live with that.
When you figure the tire wear saved in the bike and motel rooms(sleeping in the Roadtrek), it all comes out close enough for me. Camping is free at Walmart(nice and quick for travelling through) and only $7-12 at Army Corps of Engineer parks with the geezer card(senior pass). The corps parks pretty much all have electric hook ups to run the A/C. I do have a generator on board in case I need it for the A/C, but it's not the preferred way to go..
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California to Florida....What a **** ride...Nothing but long boring ass roads......Have you ever ridden a bike across Texas, Arizona and New Mexico in the summer....I have and its no fun.....
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I've done it in a truck more times than I can count. Lol.
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When you figure the tire wear saved in the bike and motel rooms(sleeping in the Roadtrek), it all comes out close enough for me. Camping is free at Walmart(nice and quick for travelling through) and only $7-12 at Army Corps of Engineer parks with the geezer card(senior pass). The corps parks pretty much all have electric hook ups to run the A/C. I do have a generator on board in case I need it for the A/C, but it's not the preferred way to go..

And some of us lucky folk get to utilize the FamCamp system. Camped on Key West a few winters ago for $12 a night.

I would love to get a class B one day. New ones are more expensive than my mini-farm.
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And some of us lucky folk get to utilize the FamCamp system. Camped on Key West a few winters ago for $12 a night.

I would love to get a class B one day. New ones are more expensive than my mini-farm.
First off, thanks for doing what you did to earn the FamCamp privilege. My oldest son and his wife are both retired US Navy.

Yup, those new class B's can get quite spendy, north of 300K. For some reason, they are a lot cheaper in the EU, likely a volume thing. I bought our 2000 Roadtrek before the economy took off, about 6-7 years ago. It was quite neglected. Got it for $10,500. It still looks a bit tough but the mechanicals and appliances are tip top and I stay after maintenance. It now has north of 192k miles on it and still runs a treat and gets an average of 13.4 mpg pulling the trailer including quite a bit of mountain driving, quite frugal. It has enough tank capacity(35g fresh) to last two weeks boondocking. I love traveling this way and am taking off again next Tuesday for another three month adventure up to MN then out west with the Versys in tow.

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