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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-20-2018, 07:53 AM Thread Starter
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Biketoberfest 2018

Took the day off yesterday and rode the Versys over to Daytona. From my house it's about a 3 hour, back-road ride. (140 miles to the Speedway)

As usual, Biketoberfest is nothing but a Harley party. Since it's only Biketoberfest and NOT Bike Week it's still been pretty festive. This year...NONE, NADA, ZIP...brands except Indian! Normally one or more of the Japanese brands represent. This year - nothing. (So hopefully you Las Vegan's going to AIM this weekend get to see the new line of bikes!)

Anyway, I pretty much go to Biketoberfest and Bike week every year, although I always ride away asking myself why I wasted my time. But it is fun to bash Harley riders!!!

I know, I know, so predictable. And I also know that sports bike riders have their own poser's, too. But these Harley guys...

I mean, come on! There are certain things that have been made fun of for a few years now. They HAVE TO KNOW that what they do is now considered taboo and stupid...like revving their engines at every stop light?? How many t-shirts and meme's have been made regarding this stupidity?!?! And now it's the loud pipes AND the loud radios! This pack of 4 Harley's ride by, wives on the back. I know they all rode together. And they ALL have loud pipes and blasting their stereo's....while rolling up in traffic together!!!! I mean one is enough but all of them together?!?! And the best part is they're trying to talk between the bikes.

All about the "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!" And most of them have a 2003 Harley Road King with less than 10K on the odo! But man, they have the leather and patches and goatee's and mean faces. Maybe someday when I grow up I can get me a Harley and be a bad-ass!!

OK, I only bash HD people because they're so easy! Here's some (boring) pics:

The speedway is normally packed. This time, it felt empty. going towards the back of these pics are normally the big name company's tents. All empty this year.






Here's a bike from "Confederate Motorcycle Company". Different. Not sure if they're ever going to attract a lot of business, but I commend them for trying!






Downtown Main Street. All the bars and vendors selling t-shirts and parts. There were a few girls that were dressed in see-through garments trying to lure you into their bar but most of them would make you want to run the other way! One or two were cute but I have no pics! (Cute or not, these ladies are probably already on the internet if you look them up! )






And the best, "original", ride I saw:



(I think he has my ex-wife on the back!


And I like this Indian! At least they're getting competitive right away. Harley throws out a few pics of concept bikes that may/may not come out in 2 years! Sorry, but sometimes HD needs a little trash talk.




And this Indian was gorgeous! (IMO) Great colors and some fine-tuned extras!

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I know, I know, so predictable. And I also know that sports bike riders have their own poser's, too. But these Harley guys...

I mean, come on! There are certain things that have been made fun of for a few years now. They HAVE TO KNOW that what they do is now considered taboo and stupid...like revving their engines at every stop light?? How many t-shirts and meme's have been made regarding this stupidity?!?! And now it's the loud pipes AND the loud radios! This pack of 4 Harley's ride by, wives on the back. I know they all rode together. And they ALL have loud pipes and blasting their stereo's....while rolling up in traffic together!!!! I mean one is enough but all of them together?!?! And the best part is they're trying to talk between the bikes.

All about the "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!" And most of them have a 2003 Harley Road King with less than 10K on the odo! But man, they have the leather and patches and goatee's and mean faces. Maybe someday when I grow up I can get me a Harley and be a bad-ass!!

OK, I only bash HD people because they're so easy!
Great write up DF.

Totally agree it's great fun to poke fun at the Hog Leg Ferguson crowd trying to be badd ass. And don't forget the wallet on a chrome chain attire. You have not arrived til you get one!

I'm sorry but I never have been an HD fan. The only HD I would have considered owning was the XR 750 flat tracker back when I used to race. Those were great bikes.

I'll bet bike week is a great venue. I would love to attend but it's half way around the world for us guys on the left coast.
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I love my Harley Davidson Road Glide Special. With the Ohlins suspension it is an awesome ride! I get that people feel better about themselves and their choices when they make fun of others and I too shake my head when I see some people.

It seems that every genre of motorcycling has their uniform. The Aerostitch on the BMW. The High Viz on the ADV and pseudo ADV bikes. The racer leathers on the sport bikes, the retro gear on the cafe' bikes, etc.

People are strange and they revel in gossip, cutting down others, etc. which is a sign of insecurity.

I love all motorcycles from 50cc to 350 CI. I will ride what I can pay cash for and enjoy it during the time I own it.

Of course you will often find me riding a bike with a "branded" jacket that doesn't match the brand I am riding on. I do like to confuse people.

I have Kawasaki, Harley, Triumph, and Moto Guzzi branded riding jackets.

I gravitate towards the retro looking gear that has modern projection like Kevlar lined jeans, Kevlar lined flannel jackets, ICON Elsinore 1000 boots because I remember wearing Sears Jeans, Flannel Shirts and thick leather boots when I started riding.
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Those Confederate bikes are pretty trick. I caught these last year at Southpoint Casino in Vegas and they sure have a similar look!
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I love my Harley Davidson Road Glide Special. With the Ohlins suspension it is an awesome ride! I get that people feel better about themselves and their choices when they make fun of others and I too shake my head when I see some people.

It seems that every genre of motorcycling has their uniform. The Aerostitch on the BMW. The High Viz on the ADV and pseudo ADV bikes. The racer leathers on the sport bikes, the retro gear on the cafe' bikes, etc.

I'd venture to say there's a safety reason for wearing this gear. Explain to me how an armless button down shirt, flip flops and no helmet will provide safety! Aerostitch is top of the line, Hi-Viz...for visability...racer leathers (I agree look ridiculous) but they could save a lot of skin on a slide, and retro gear - as long as it's armored, which a lot of it is. What do these HD riders have? Loud pipes and "Loud Pipes Save Lives" stickers on their skid lids or leather vests...you know, the leather vests that will save the skin from coming off your arms! And the "loud pipes" has been debunked, or unproven.


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People are strange and they revel in gossip, cutting down others, etc. which is a sign of insecurity.

I love all motorcycles from 50cc to 350 CI. I will ride what I can pay cash for and enjoy it during the time I own it.
So what if I am insecure? Until about 3 years ago all I ever rode were cruisers so I know a lot of the "image thing". So I can't bash the HD guy that had a bike that shook so much he couldn't hardly hold it up straight while making a turn on to Main Street? Or the one guy that was backing out his dresser...while everyone stopped and watched because they were afraid he'd lay it down as it was more than he could handle...and then down it went! But man, he looked bad with those patches! (I would have made fun if it was a Goldwing all the same! Yet I'd be the first one to run over and help them out!)
Ride whatever the heck you want and whatever the heck you can pay for. I don't care. But if you're going to tell me that most Harley owners are all about the bike and have NOTHING to do with an image you're crazy!


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Of course you will often find me riding a bike with a "branded" jacket that doesn't match the brand I am riding on. I do like to confuse people.

I have Kawasaki, Harley, Triumph, and Moto Guzzi branded riding jackets.

I gravitate towards the retro looking gear that has modern projection like Kevlar lined jeans, Kevlar lined flannel jackets, ICON Elsinore 1000 boots because I remember wearing Sears Jeans, Flannel Shirts and thick leather boots when I started riding.

You just backed up my point - you don't care what you ride and you don't care what you look like when you ride! I see way more crotch rocket riders with just a jacket and jeans (which may be kevlar). Then there are some with the full suit. I see many ADV riders with the same or touring jackets. and protective pants. Some have jackets and jeans. But HD riders...hardly ever do you see one in something other than a leather vest and jeans! They have an image to protect. You can tell me otherwise but I'll never agree with you.
Again, that's not to say that there's exceptions to the rule but there's a lot more Harley owner jokes than any other. I didn't make them up, there must be a reason other than insecurity.

And FWIW, a friend finally bought a Harley. He tells me stories of all these guys he meets that ask him why he didn't buy a Harley (his favorite ride is his Suzuki LC1500, with 125K on it. He refuses to part with it!). Well, he finally bought a Softtail last month. So far...his right turn signal fell off. He replaced it then called me this week to tell me the new one broke! Also, his rear wheel bearing went! I never laughed so hard! He wanted to see for himself if HD was everything they say. He's not thinking that right now!

And I ain't trying to be combative either. But I cannot stand when HD owners immediately get defensive over the mere mention of a Harley being less than adequate. Make fun of me, what I wear, what I look like, and what bike I ride...you won't see me getting all defensive! Matter of fact, I'd probably agree with you and laugh at myself! How many HD owners can say/do that? None! Because they have that image to protect!
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. But HD riders...hardly ever do you see one in something other than a leather vest and jeans! They have an image to protect. You can tell me otherwise but I'll never agree with you.
Again, that's not to say that there's exceptions to the rule but there's a lot more Harley owner jokes than any other. I didn't make them up, there must be a reason other than insecurity.
I think it does depend where you live. When I was a teen in Daytona Beach I wore a half helmet, swim trunks, lightning bolt flip flops while riding my XS750 the 4 miles to the beach on 25 mph roads and all day up and down the beach.

If I was heading to Blue Springs I put on a little more maybe. Only wore more gear based on weather conditions, not protection.

Here in Tennessee, I see way more Harley riders with jackets and at least modular helmets and it also depends on the profession of the rider and the cost of the bike.

The guys on the 25+ old harleys tend to wear less gear than the guys on new Harleys.

Of course down around the pan handle of Florida I see helmetless people on all genres of motorcycle.

Wear what you want, ride what you want. I didn't get my online name because I am a casual take it or leave it motorcyclist. I am in my home office right now and everything around me is motorcycle related. Photos, Framed Posters, Models, Lanyards, Books, Magazines, etc.

I am hoping to retire a little early and find a gig in the motorcycle industry. I currently ride one of the most popular brands as well as one of the least popular brands (Moto Guzzi) in America. I buy what moves me and can actually go around corners.

Many Harleys can't go around corners and take too much skill to ride aggressively because hard parts touch down, suspension and frame cause wallowing, etc.

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I think it does depend where you live. When I was a teen in Daytona Beach I wore a half helmet, swim trunks, lightning bolt flip flops while riding my XS750 the 4 miles to the beach on 25 mph roads and all day up and down the beach...


...I am hoping to retire a little early and find a gig in the motorcycle industry. I currently ride one of the most popular brands as well as one of the least popular brands (Moto Guzzi) in America. I buy what moves me and can actually go around corners.
I meet and speak with a lot of bikers, Harley owners included, and everyone seems pretty nice. We all have a love for riding and I like that. Matter of fact, just last month while riding home I had to pull over as a downpour was about a mile out. While rain-gearing-up a Harley rider pulls over next to me. I asked him if he was OK. He said he wanted to ride through the rain with me just so if one of us had issues we had the other's back. Cool!

But when you go to Biketoberfest and/or Bike Week...totally different. Their pipes are SOOOO LOUD it, literally, hurts your ears and then they CRANK THEIR MUSIC LOUDER THAN THEIR PIPES!!! To me, that's nothing more than, "Look at me! Look at me!". And getting stuck at a light next to one of these... And why the need to sit there and rev your engine while stopped? Even when I had my cruisers I never did that. (And it's no different than those azzhat sport bikes that rev when passing a car they feel "disrespected" their lane of travel - which I see a lot on YouTube but not on roads that I travel.)

I see it this way, if you're NOT a 1%'er then don't try to portray the image of a 1%'er. They are the ones that have an image because they were the first to put on a vest and patches.

So, I'll concede in the sense that maybe it's not the bike itself but the "biker" that makes me shake my head. With that said I really enjoy walking through the parking areas looking at ALL the bikes! And there are some beauties, many Harley's, of course!
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Thanks for the pics DF! I've only been to Biketoberfest once, way back in '97 or '98. I was attending Ducati technical training at AMI, just a stone's throw (or so) from Daytona Speedway. You ain't kidding, that place looks empty! The year I went, all the big manufacturers had tents and test rides. Honda had test rides on the then new-ish Valkyrie. It was the first place I ever saw someone place a nickel on the valve cover, standing on it's edge, and the nickel didn't fall over when he reved the engine! Still a "Harley majority," I'd say, but also still a good mix of other makes and riders. Maybe it's all the recent weather keeping the others away?
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But when you go to Biketoberfest and/or Bike Week...totally different. Their pipes are SOOOO LOUD it, literally, hurts your ears and then they CRANK THEIR MUSIC LOUDER THAN THEIR PIPES!!! To me, that's nothing more than, "Look at me! Look at me!". And getting stuck at a light next to one of these... And why the need to sit there and rev your engine while stopped? Even when I had my cruisers I never did that. (And it's no different than those azzhat sport bikes that rev when passing a car they feel "disrespected" their lane of travel - which I see a lot on YouTube but not on roads that I travel.)
I have heard the loud music thing a few times with the HD riders but did not think too much about it until...Last night driving home in my car. A pair of Harley's pulled out of a neighborhood behind me. OMG their music was soooooooooo LOUD I could hear them coming from 2 blocks away.

Could not believe the amount of sound/noise that was being generated by those 2 bikes and they were not full baggers. It was worse than the low riders with the super sub woffers in their trunk. It was as loud as a modern rock concert on wheels.

Thinking it was loud enough to raise the dead or make them run and hide.

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I meet and speak with a lot of bikers, Harley owners included, and everyone seems pretty nice. We all have a love for riding and I like that. Matter of fact, just last month while riding home I had to pull over as a downpour was about a mile out. While rain-gearing-up a Harley rider pulls over next to me. I asked him if he was OK. He said he wanted to ride through the rain with me just so if one of us had issues we had the other's back. Cool!

But when you go to Biketoberfest and/or Bike Week...totally different. Their pipes are SOOOO LOUD it, literally, hurts your ears and then they CRANK THEIR MUSIC LOUDER THAN THEIR PIPES!!! To me, that's nothing more than, "Look at me! Look at me!". And getting stuck at a light next to one of these... And why the need to sit there and rev your engine while stopped? Even when I had my cruisers I never did that. (And it's no different than those azzhat sport bikes that rev when passing a car they feel "disrespected" their lane of travel - which I see a lot on YouTube but not on roads that I travel.)

I see it this way, if you're NOT a 1%'er then don't try to portray the image of a 1%'er. They are the ones that have an image because they were the first to put on a vest and patches.

So, I'll concede in the sense that maybe it's not the bike itself but the "biker" that makes me shake my head. With that said I really enjoy walking through the parking areas looking at ALL the bikes! And there are some beauties, many Harley's, of course!
I run stock exhaust on all my bikes. I do laugh at the guys who spend $1200 or more for loud pipes and a tune, and then spend $2000 or more on stereo upgrades so they can hear the music over the pipes.

Sometimes the blipping the throttle at a light is because they have a super hot cam in the engine and it always feels like it is going to die at idle like the hot rod cars. Sometimes it is because they have carburetor bikes and the idle set way too low to sustain the engine.

Many "bikers" are Blue Collar, or come from a Blue Collar background and if they weren't bikers they would be lodge members, bowling league, or some other group culture thing. People tend to want to belong to something larger than just themselves.

I have leather vests, but they are cowboy country vests with no patches on them. I wear them with my denim trucker jacket and cowboy boots. Am I a western poser? Probably, but I do own horses.
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Thanks for the pics DF! I've only been to Biketoberfest once, way back in '97 or '98. I was attending Ducati technical training at AMI, just a stone's throw (or so) from Daytona Speedway. You ain't kidding, that place looks empty! The year I went, all the big manufacturers had tents and test rides. Honda had test rides on the then new-ish Valkyrie. It was the first place I ever saw someone place a nickel on the valve cover, standing on it's edge, and the nickel didn't fall over when he reved the engine! Still a "Harley majority," I'd say, but also still a good mix of other makes and riders. Maybe it's all the recent weather keeping the others away?
Yeah, I heard that the weather put a damper on a lot of visitors. Even still, I think, it was pretty low-keyed this year. With that said...I KNOW Bike Week should have all the brands. And I know there will be a lot more people. Bike Week is in March and that's about the time many of you "Northerners" are getting stir crazy, so ya trailer-up and make your way down for March!

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...But HD riders...hardly ever do you see one in something other than a leather vest and jeans! They have an image to protect. You can tell me otherwise but I'll never agree with you....
I just added a ride I did to Tortilla Flats two days ago in MEMBERS RIDES. I had lunch in the restaurant there, and I was POSSIBLY (didn't check to be sure) the ONLY non-Harley parked outside, there. Went inside for lunch and got GREAT views of the H-D 'uniform': an H-D tee-shirt, probably a leather vest w/ patches, beard, jeans, boots, head-band w/ MORE patches.

I probably looked VERY WEIRD to THEM - hi-vis "Scorpion" mesh jacket, mesh pants....



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NOPE - you AIN'T a "western poser".

I'm from 'cowboy country' in Alberta and I have FOUR 'hats' here in AZ, FIVE in BC (Stetsons, Baileys, Resistol, etc), worn 'boots' ALL my life, and my brother was the TOP rodeo photographer in N America till he recently retired (THE event photographer for the NFR, 13 years running!), and NEITHER of us owns a horse.

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I'm from 'cowboy country' in Alberta and I have FOUR 'hats' here in AZ, FIVE in BC (Stetsons, Baileys, Resistol, etc), worn 'boots' ALL my life, and my brother was the TOP rodeo photographer in N America till he recently retired (THE event photographer for the NFR, 13 years running!), and NEITHER of us owns a horse.
You and me don't own a horse Eddie cuz we need more than just one horse power...Lol.
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You and me don't own a horse Eddie cuz we need more than just one horse power...Lol.
I own them, but my wife rides them. I rode until one hurt my hip and I couldn't ride my bikes for a time. From then on I said not worth the risk.

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Pretty much everyone I know with an aftermarket exhaust rev bombs, myself included as I'm one of those strange people that has a Versys with a loud exhaust. You haven't lived until you've done a bunch of 2nd and 3rd gear pulls in the Eisenhower tunnel with a two brothers wearing Versys haha
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I'd venture to say there's a safety reason for wearing this gear. Explain to me how an armless button down shirt, flip flops and no helmet will provide safety! Aerostitch is top of the line, Hi-Viz...for visability...racer leathers (I agree look ridiculous) but they could save a lot of skin on a slide, and retro gear - as long as it's armored, which a lot of it is. What do these HD riders have? Loud pipes and "Loud Pipes Save Lives" stickers on their skid lids or leather vests...you know, the leather vests that will save the skin from coming off your arms! And the "loud pipes" has been debunked, or unproven.




So what if I am insecure? Until about 3 years ago all I ever rode were cruisers so I know a lot of the "image thing". So I can't bash the HD guy that had a bike that shook so much he couldn't hardly hold it up straight while making a turn on to Main Street? Or the one guy that was backing out his dresser...while everyone stopped and watched because they were afraid he'd lay it down as it was more than he could handle...and then down it went! But man, he looked bad with those patches! (I would have made fun if it was a Goldwing all the same! Yet I'd be the first one to run over and help them out!)
Ride whatever the heck you want and whatever the heck you can pay for. I don't care. But if you're going to tell me that most Harley owners are all about the bike and have NOTHING to do with an image you're crazy!





You just backed up my point - you don't care what you ride and you don't care what you look like when you ride! I see way more crotch rocket riders with just a jacket and jeans (which may be kevlar). Then there are some with the full suit. I see many ADV riders with the same or touring jackets. and protective pants. Some have jackets and jeans. But HD riders...hardly ever do you see one in something other than a leather vest and jeans! They have an image to protect. You can tell me otherwise but I'll never agree with you.
Again, that's not to say that there's exceptions to the rule but there's a lot more Harley owner jokes than any other. I didn't make them up, there must be a reason other than insecurity.

And FWIW, a friend finally bought a Harley. He tells me stories of all these guys he meets that ask him why he didn't buy a Harley (his favorite ride is his Suzuki LC1500, with 125K on it. He refuses to part with it!). Well, he finally bought a Softtail last month. So far...his right turn signal fell off. He replaced it then called me this week to tell me the new one broke! Also, his rear wheel bearing went! I never laughed so hard! He wanted to see for himself if HD was everything they say. He's not thinking that right now!

And I ain't trying to be combative either. But I cannot stand when HD owners immediately get defensive over the mere mention of a Harley being less than adequate. Make fun of me, what I wear, what I look like, and what bike I ride...you won't see me getting all defensive! Matter of fact, I'd probably agree with you and laugh at myself! How many HD owners can say/do that? None! Because they have that image to protect!
Around here, you get 2 types of Harley rider, the vast majority that wear zero gear, and the ones wearing textile gear and a modular helmet, and then my father-in-law who wears full leather gear (cruiser style jacket and chaps) and a modular helmet. I wouldn't even call the 3/4 length jacket and textile pants ADV specific anymore, it works great for any type of riding and you see them more and more on sport bikes and cruisers (though usually metric cruisers) in addition to the usual culprits of ADV bikes and big bore sport tourers. Honestly the only place I see the "retro" style gear is on guys looking very uncomfortable while they ride their brand new Ducati or Triumph cafe racers through Boulder, they NEVER leave Boulder haha.

I've had more than a few people ask me "when are you getting a Harley", it's like a standard assumption that apparently all of us aspire to Harley ownership? I might take a gander at their street fighter and ADV bike when they come out, but at this point in time they don't make a bike that can keep up with a Versys in the canyons (the Street Rod might, if you can stand to ride it for more than 5 minutes), our little 60hp "commuter bike" will absolutely destroy a Harley on a twisty road haha.

And lets face it, if you're riding a Versys, you are not insecure. It's an odd looking bike with an identity crisis, people think it's an ADV bike because "tall bike that bares a vague resemblance to a GS" but it corners like its a super sport.

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I think it does depend where you live. When I was a teen in Daytona Beach I wore a half helmet, swim trunks, lightning bolt flip flops while riding my XS750 the 4 miles to the beach on 25 mph roads and all day up and down the beach.

If I was heading to Blue Springs I put on a little more maybe. Only wore more gear based on weather conditions, not protection.

Here in Tennessee, I see way more Harley riders with jackets and at least modular helmets and it also depends on the profession of the rider and the cost of the bike.

The guys on the 25+ old harleys tend to wear less gear than the guys on new Harleys.

Of course down around the pan handle of Florida I see helmetless people on all genres of motorcycle.

Wear what you want, ride what you want. I didn't get my online name because I am a casual take it or leave it motorcyclist. I am in my home office right now and everything around me is motorcycle related. Photos, Framed Posters, Models, Lanyards, Books, Magazines, etc.

I am hoping to retire a little early and find a gig in the motorcycle industry. I currently ride one of the most popular brands as well as one of the least popular brands (Moto Guzzi) in America. I buy what moves me and can actually go around corners.

Many Harleys can't go around corners and take too much skill to ride aggressively because hard parts touch down, suspension and frame cause wallowing, etc.

My current stable.
Part of me wants a Road Glide, because it is oh so comfortable and looks great, but then I realize that I spend a lot of time riding in the canyons and a Road Glide's natural environment is the interstate. My Versys is much easier to manage in stop & go traffic and it's almost comical how much faster it is around a corner than any cruiser.
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Harley Davidson....honestly I dont get it!I like technology,for me thats the juice.Stuff like mufflers.Of course you gotta love the look of your bike,thats sex appeal, each their own. HD doesnt do it for me.Loud pipes save lives,thats pre-historic thinking.Bright well placed LED running lights saves your life all long as you drive defensivley.Give the rest of mankind a break with the noise. Nasa spends alot of its time now making jetliner engines quieter.Soon there will electric motorcycles that outperform all our gas powered bikes and all you hear is whizzing turbine like sound! Will all the noise then become redundant?
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Part of me wants a Road Glide, because it is oh so comfortable and looks great, but then I realize that I spend a lot of time riding in the canyons and a Road Glide's natural environment is the interstate. My Versys is much easier to manage in stop & go traffic and it's almost comical how much faster it is around a corner than any cruiser.
I only ride curvy roads on my Road Glide. With the Ohlins suspension it handles quite well. I will admit that it takes skill and concentration to ride the Road Glide quickly but that is part of the challenge after all these miles. The bike is very planted.

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Harley Davidson....honestly I dont get it!I like technology,for me thats the juice.Stuff like mufflers.Of course you gotta love the look of your bike,thats sex appeal, each their own. HD doesnt do it for me.Loud pipes save lives,thats pre-historic thinking.Bright well placed LED running lights saves your life all long as you drive defensivley.Give the rest of mankind a break with the noise. Nasa spends alot of its time now making jetliner engines quieter.Soon there will electric motorcycles that outperform all our gas powered bikes and all you hear is whizzing turbine like sound! Will all the noise then become redundant?
Not every Harley rider does what you think, just like every non Harley rider doesn't leave the bike stock and wears Hi-viz. Look at all the aftermarket parts for all the non Harley bikes.

My Road Glide has LED running Lights, LED headlights, LED Run/turn/brake lights and saddlebag lights. Many of the Road Glide owners I know are set up the same.

I have seen many sport bikes with almost no rear lighting.

Most of the technology in your bike was invented 120 years ago. Watch a few history shows on motorcycling and you will see that there is nothing new. Just made better over the years.

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