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How many V owners are in school.

There was a thread not too long ago about ages of V owners on this forum. I thought that was a way of finding common attributes among V owners other than the obvious enthusiasm for bikes and owning a V.

I am therefore wondering whether any V owners are in school and what they are studying. I'll begin.

I am doing a PhD in Communication and working on the socio-political impacts of surveillance policies and technologies.

Any one else?

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Ya, I got an honorary PHD at the School of Hard Knocks.
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Ya, I got an honorary PHD at the School of Hard Knocks.
Do you still fight?

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I have an AA in Computer Information Systems and am currently working towards a BS and then a PhD in Chemistry.


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Spent 10+ years just working different jobs and bar hoping. Finally decided that I want to do something different. Sick of only having a high school diploma and lots of experience but no certifications or higher degrees. Because of this, the highest paying jobs I can find are manual labor. They aren't bad, but my body isn't going to hold out forever. The job I currently work you can make 6 figures a year easy with only a high school diploma, but you have to work 70+ hours a week. I also started feeling that year after year I was losing any intelligence that I still have. So, I work full time currently and go to college part time. As soon as I get some more money saved up (about 2 more years) I will quit working and go to college full time. Hope to have my Masters completed by 2017. In what...who knows, I'll figure that out more along the way. Right now I am just taking care of the basics.

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I have an AA in Computer Information Systems and am currently working towards a BS and then a PhD in Chemistry.
So you will get into a PhD program directly from a BA, without getting an MSc first?

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So you will get into a PhD program directly from a BA, without getting an MSc first?

That's not uncommon. Sometimes people apply for the Doctorates and get the Masters along the way.

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So you will get into a PhD program directly from a BA, without getting an MSc first?
Yep. I talked to the department chair and he said that there is little difference between the master and phd, just a few more classes and more research. He also mentioned that having a masters in a science field is a bit of a joke. You can't get the good positions/research. Plus having the Dr. title is pretty sweet.


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It all depends on your degree. Having your BS in Psychology isn't worth much either, you really need the Doctorates. Though having a BS in Petroleum Engineering is actually worth something...or at least they tell me that.

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Yep. I talked to the department chair and he said that there is little difference between the master and phd, just a few more classes and more research. He also mentioned that having a masters in a science field is a bit of a joke. You can't get the good positions/research. Plus having the Dr. title is pretty sweet.
This depends on the field you are in. For example, if you want to work as a computer progammer, a BSc or an MSc doesn't make a difference. But if you want to be a Computer Science professor and if your BA did not have research component to it, your PhD applications will not be taken seriously unless you have very strong support from professors within the department. Many universities (like mine) do not give a Masters degree if you descide to do so while enrolled in a PhD program. You either complete it or drop out the rate of which is an astonishing 50% in Canada.

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It all depends on your degree. Having your BS in Psychology isn't worth much either, you really need the Doctorates. Though having a BS in Petroleum Engineering is actually worth something...or at least they tell me that.
Does Bill Gates have a Phd. Sorry guys I am not trying to rub it in.
Anyway Bill_milstead..trust you will finish your college and get your degree.All the best to you.
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I'm in school! I teach school (high school). It is an A+ Certification course for computers. Five levels 9th through 12th grades.
Retired from AT&T G.I.S. and now this is my 12th year teaching. Maybe four more and I will retire again to try something else.

Most of my student grads are making more money than I do now.

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I am doing a PhD in Communication and working on the socio-political impacts of surveillance policies and technologies.


This is interesting.
So what do you think about surveillance?
Is '1984' your main text book?
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That is funny Ivan.

Bill Gates is a breed of his own. Not as computer savvy as a lot of people, he did do some very impressive business work though...kinda scandalous too. Rent the movie: Pirates of Silicon Valley (not porn) and it will tell you about the background of a lot of stuff.

Thumper, that is how it goes. You teach, they go out and make the money. That is amazing that they offer A+ certs in high school! Back when I was in High School (94-98), they had just started offering typing classes and I learned how to type on a typewriter. No cheating by using the backspace...gotta turn in that paper.

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I'm in school! I teach school (high school). It is an A+ Certification course for computers. Five levels 9th through 12th grades.
Retired from AT&T G.I.S. and now this is my 12th year teaching. Maybe four more and I will retire again to try something else.

Most of my student grads are making more money than I do now.
wish I had that kind of certification/ class in highschool
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Most of my student grads are making more money than I do now.
Yes, that is quite common.

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This is interesting.
So what do you think about surveillance?
Is '1984' your main text book?
1984 is a novel that probably every surveillance student reads but it is quite dystopic and pessimistic (there are many countries in the world with totalitarian policies). However, I am not that paranoid yet. But I do believe that none of us in the developed world have a place to "hide", i.e. we are all surveilled in onf form or the other. Our spending habits (credit cards), stores we frequent, groceries we buy most, etc. are very easy to data mine making targetted marketing very easy. Have you ever noticed that if you were visiting a shopping web site "A", and close it and visit shopping website "B" which has some ad banners running on it, the "B" will have advertisements from the "A" and most probably of an item similar to what you were looking at on "A". So cookies become a sort of a surveiilance tool.

If you like watching movies, you shoukd see "The Conversation", Enemy of the State", and "The Minority Reort". One could argue that Minority Report is science fiction. Well, it was at the time of its release but not anymore. A Japanese company has come up with advertisements that read consumer faces, guesses their age, gender, etc., tracks their eye movements and then offers advertisements handpicked for that person. The crux of the "Minority Report" was pre-emption. It is happening right now with the War on Terror. Pre-emptive arrests being made on the suspicion that a person would have done something.

Star Trek had its characters move digital data in devices which resembled USB sticks we use nowadays. So some of the fiction doesn't remain fiction for that long.

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