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Never change the oil again!

So, I was looking at new push mowers recently. I saw this label on the mower "never change the oil again"....and yes, it was a 4-cycle engine (not a 2-cycle Lawn Boy)....touting that you only need to check and add oil. I thought to myself, who would want to keep old oil in an engine, without ever changing it? Then I read some owner reviews. Believe it or not, many owners were HAPPY that they bought a mower with this feature.

Some people must be naive. Either the motor is designed to use oil at a high rate that causes frequent turnover, or it doesn't use oil (initially) and the oil deteriorates and then allows premature internal engine wear.

I fail to see the logic or benefit, in not changing oil in a gas engine. With this logic, why would people want to change the oil in any of their gasoline engines (cars, trucks, etc.)?

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They claim their design burns less oil!

No More Oil Changes? New Briggs & Stratton EXi Engine with Just Check & Add? Technology - Small Engine Parts Warehouse

The only thing I can think of is... The engine is not meant to last that long. Consumer grade stationary engines are designed for short life spans, how else could they do with plastic camshafts?
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they probably get such low hours that the oil never has a chance to get overly thinned or contaminated from blow-by
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They sell more mowers this way.
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You never really cause damage to the engine by burning oil, it's damage to the engine that tends to CAUSE excessive burning of oil. They're just running a 4 cycle like a 2 stroke and letting it burn some oil on purpose at a rate high enough that it avoids sludgy buildup. "Burns less oil" they say, but they don't say "than what", so my assumption is "a 2 stroke."
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I once heard a guy say:
"Oils been in the ground for millions of years, I don't see what a few years in my truck is gonna do to it!"
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I,very known people that never changed the oil in their cars with no ill effect. I bought a 17 year old '65 Fairlane with the 289 engine for $100. Thing fired off as soon as a battery was put in it. Took it to a quick lube and they had to slowly put new oil in it because of the sludge.

Thing just ran and ran. Sold it to a coworker 4 years later.
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they probably get such low hours that the oil never has a chance to get overly thinned or contaminated from blow-by
I have a generator that gets used very sparingly and it's almost silly to change the oil. It comes out as clean as it goes in.
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nah B&S are just so good they give you no BS, it also says you still have to change the oil when you do annual maintenance (i think every 3 years)
but i have loads of b&s motors and all run like champs
my main mower was the first "big buy"i ever mad when i was like 7 or 8 years old for $20 at a yard sale and its been with me all this time and made me probably 1000X what i spent for it, and also had almost every thing on it replaced (no counting the motor) once or twice
oh ya and i had a bit of a midlife crisis sorta thing and couldn't afford a hot rod so i made my mower one, with a aftermarket air filter from my 72 super and a BBQ ignition to spark the flame thrower exhaust lol
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...oh ya and i had a bit of a midlife crisis sorta thing and couldn't afford a hot rod so i made my mower one, with a aftermarket air filter from my 72 super and a BBQ ignition to spark the flame thrower exhaust lol
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