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Smile Hello from Barrie Ontario

Hey everyone, I am new to the forum, new to Kawasaki! This is my first Kawi after being a brainwashed Honda nut for decades. I picked up a 2013 Versys 650 last Wed, snow is still here, can't drive it yet but can't wait to get to roll it out of our bedroom, the wife is getting a little cranky about having to walk around it to get to the bathroom...

I am looking forward to participating in the forum to learn more about my bike and any modifications/improvements and issues that I may experience.

Attached are photos I took at the dealers.

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One thing to mention is that though I just had it delivered, it doesn't start. I spoke to the dealer and they (of course) are going to look after it, but I am curious what others with more experience think it is. It just makes a whir noise and doesn't engage the starter, so they think it could be the starter. The starter is on order be a week before I know, to save time I wanted to know what people like you guys with more experience think.

Here is the link to the video I made with the noise it makes.


Incidentally, when the dealer delivered it, it started fine.
I started it the next day (very cold outside- snow still on the ground) and the machine coughed and sputted but started)
The next day it just started making this noise.
I checked the battery and it's ok.
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Hey thanks! Appreciate that!
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How long do you depress the starter button. If you are still pressing the starter button and the engine cut off than there is something wrong seriously.

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I started it a few times ok, I hold it for 1-3 secs only and usually let it wait for 15-20 secs before trying again so it doesn't overheat the starter...
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can you hear the fuel pump priming when you turn ignition ON?
I could not tell in the video.

Chech fuses under the seat.

Check that the main 30A fuse is OK.
It is on the LHS of bike. Take Seat off and also the LHS side faring.
There is a Black Box behind the faring under the rear of the tank that you can access from the LHS and it holds the MAIN 30A fuse.

Hold starter for 2 seconds. then wait a bit before trying again

How old is the fuel?
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Welcome! I believe I did hear the fuel pump priming in the video?

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Yeah sounds like the starter gear was stuck in and probably just came unstuck from messing with it, and that is why its starting now. The bike is fuel injected so every time you try to start it and it doesn't start there is that much more fuel just sitting in there. Could be the reason that when it did start it was coughing and barking at you (burning off all that extra fuel). I'm new to the versys, but not working on motors. That's what it sounds like to me, but I would definitely have the dealer take care of that and change the starter out for you. You don't want to be 3 hours away in the mountains and have your starter go on you.

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Hi All, thanks so much for all feedback and suggestions.
So, checked that pesky fuse but all ok.
Yes, it does prime up the fuel.
Still no luck, just makes that same noise, so hasn't started in over a week.

No word from dealer on how long the starter is going to take but they say it's on order from Japan, which is strange since it's made in Thailand..no?

Should I take the starter off and see what's up?

I did try whacking at it with a rubber mallet but nothing seems to jar it...
AGREED I don't want to end up somewhere with a faulty starter but it would be nice to spend some time behind the bars.
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Kinda sucks, being that you just bought it. Hopefully the dealer gets it done ASAP for you, they should. Once they fix it and you get out riding, you're going to love the versys.

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That's the way I feel about it, being brand new, but we just got 1 foot of snow last night so the pain is fleeting, I know the dealer will fix it, but 10 days now and no part? Makes me a little nervous...This bike is made in Thailand so maybe distribution of parts is an issue here in Canada...

I hope it really is the starter though, otherwise it's going back to them for troubleshooting and weeks upon weeks of parts waiting?

Guess I will stick to the snowmobile until this gets sorted out!
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Unhappy Still Waiting...

Well... the dealer tells me there are no "starters" for my 2013 Kawi Versys 650 anywhere in North America! How about that?
So, I am waiting for a slow boat container from (I can only assume Thailand where the bike is made)
Not a great start to my first Kawi..buy brand new then wait weeks or months for a simple part like a starter?
It's sitting in my garage now with 1km on it while I wait.

I really hope this is the only hiccup.

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I think Kawi should give you a new bike. Have you tried contacting Kawasaki Canada?

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Check all safety switches: clutch, kickstand, and right handlebar.
I know you say the battery is okay, and if I missed that you have it on a float charger, I apologize. If not, put it on a float charger for a good 24 hours. When dealers prep these bikes new, they add the acid pack, let it sit for an hour, then figure running the bike will add a charge once the customer receives it. Glass mat batteries need to be fully charged before being put into routine service. It takes a good 20-30 minutes of running to add enough juice back to a fully charged battery, that was robbed during the starting process. Yours was likely put into service without a full charge, and hitting the starter every few days is draining it. If you have a multimeter, hook it up to the battery, then check voltage in three scenarios:

1. No load. Everything off, no key, lights, etc.
2. With the key turned on, ready to start.
3. While depressing the starter.

You'd be surprised to find out that a battery that looks good unloaded on a tester, actually doesn't have enough juice when it has to a) power everything on (fuel pump, other electricals) and b) turn the starter. If the voltage drops significantly with key on or starter depressed, it doesn't have enough power to start the bike.


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