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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-23-2013, 10:06 AM Thread Starter
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Saying hey

I wanted to comment on the thread about the Motorcyclist comparison to the F800GT, which I wrote, but it seems like I never posted to the new member area to get privileges.

So that's that.

Incidentally, I do actually own a Versys, a '12 yellow model, which already has a ton of mods to it.

It's an affliction.

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Well it's nice to see you own one. I was able to post about after two posts.
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Thanks, guys.

I've really enjoyed the Versys, even if I sometimes take crap from the rest of the staff.

"You have a garage full of the latest stuff and you ride THAT to work?"

Actually, they do know how good the V is. Now with suspension and brake upgrades, it's a total hoot. One of my/our favorites.

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Can't wait to hear what your suspension and brake upgrades are.

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Hi, Marc.
Welcome aboard. I enjoyed your F800GT vs Versys story. I've got an '08 set up for touring and it has appeared several times in another moto magazine. So has Motociclista's '09. I'm curious to read your input on the thread about your article.
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Now with suspension and brake upgrades, it's a total hoot.
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Thanks, guys.

I've really enjoyed the Versys, even if I sometimes take crap from the rest of the staff.

"You have a garage full of the latest stuff and you ride THAT to work?"

Actually, they do know how good the V is. Now with suspension and brake upgrades, it's a total hoot. One of my/our favorites.

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Very interested to hear what suspension and brake upgrades you have done. If you have written about them please post a link. Can't seem to find the mag. in stores as they seem to have sold out. Thanks.
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Can't seem to find the mag. in stores as they seem to have sold out. Thanks.
Not likely sold out, but rather not on the shelves yet. Newsstands typically put out monthly periodicals for the month prior to the publication date, so the November issue of Motorcyclist will hit newsstands on October 1.


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I wanted to comment on the thread about the Motorcyclist comparison to the F800GT, which I wrote, but it seems like I never posted to the new member area to get privileges.

So that's that.

Incidentally, I do actually own a Versys, a '12 yellow model, which already has a ton of mods to it.

It's an affliction.

--Marc Cook/Motorcyclist
Welcome aboard, Marc Cook. I KNEW there were Versys's (??) to be found among the moto journalists! Not the greatest, and not the worst by a long shot, but a ton of fun.

Nice article - nice writing. I've read it three times now and found it refreshingly unbiased. Some good thing here and some not so good things here, and some good things there and some not so good things there. Both bikes have pros and cons. Some will like one and some will like the other. Good on 'em. Should that be an earth-shattering surprise to anyone? Nyet, nein, non, nope. To each his (or her) own and more power to us all.

And there's something to be said for subscribing rather than waiting for the mag to show up in the local shops. We've already read it from cover to cover while others stand and wait - patiently.

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I haven't written about the mods yet, but will in a future issue.

Short version: I went the easy route on the suspension by calling Traxxion. I do like to tinker and really like to recycle components (the R6 shock, for example), but I was in a bit of a bind time-wise. I had the work done just a couple of weeks before I took the Versys on vacation, and wanted a setup that I knew would be close.

So, Traxxion AK20s (compression adjustment one side, rebound the other, both live cartridges) and Penske shock. Yeah, yeah, it's a chunk of change. That's the beauty of starting with an $8000 motorcycle. (Which mine wasn't since I bought it used.)

Brakes are Nissin four-piston units off a Honda CBR600F4/929/945 with modified caliper adapters from an SV650. Right now, I'm still running the stock Kawasaki master, but I also have a radial-mount from my old crashed (and totaled) GSX-R750 plus the original Honda master that I'm going to try soon.

Lots of tinkering still to come. And I haven't touched the engine. Yet.
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Looking forward to reading this comparison..

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I haven't written about the mods yet, but will in a future issue.

Short version: I went the easy route on the suspension by calling Traxxion. I do like to tinker and really like to recycle components (the R6 shock, for example), but I was in a bit of a bind time-wise. I had the work done just a couple of weeks before I took the Versys on vacation, and wanted a setup that I knew would be close.

So, Traxxion AK20s (compression adjustment one side, rebound the other, both live cartridges) and Penske shock. Yeah, yeah, it's a chunk of change. That's the beauty of starting with an $8000 motorcycle. (Which mine wasn't since I bought it used.)

Brakes are Nissin four-piston units off a Honda CBR600F4/929/945 with modified caliper adapters from an SV650. Right now, I'm still running the stock Kawasaki master, but I also have a radial-mount from my old crashed (and totaled) GSX-R750 plus the original Honda master that I'm going to try soon.

Lots of tinkering still to come. And I haven't touched the engine. Yet.
Welcome, Marc!

Where did you get the modified caliper adapters? That's a brake upgrade I'd like to do, but I'm no machinist, I'd need to purchase adapter brackets.
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The caliper adapters are here.

You'll also need longer bolts, and these spacers with a 5/16-in ID.

I don't remember the bolt lengths off hand, but will check them when I get home.

Not super cheap--the calipers cost $150 on eBay, plus $80-90 in spacers and hardware--but the setup is vastly better, IMO, than stock.

I already had braided lines and HH+ pads on the stock calipers, and was still not happy with the brakes.
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Suddenly, I feel honored that my post garnered the attention of a magazine, and specifically the writer of the article.

Welcome aboard Marc.

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The caliper adapters are here.

You'll also need longer bolts, and these spacers with a 5/16-in ID.

I don't remember the bolt lengths off hand, but will check them when I get home.

Not super cheap--the calipers cost $150 on eBay, plus $80-90 in spacers and hardware--but the setup is vastly better, IMO, than stock.

I already had braided lines and HH+ pads on the stock calipers, and was still not happy with the brakes.
Thanks for the info. So those SV brackets work with the longer bolts, spacers...no further modification to the SV brackets?

Been toying with the idea. I, too, put on stainless lines and Vesrah RJL pads. Better, but not the type of brakes I'm used to from riding sportbikes!
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Yes, the SV brackets work as long as you get the correct new bolts and spacers from someplace like McMaster-Carr.

To be clear: No machining needed. This is a totally bolt-up affair.

Just confirmed the bolt sizes as follows:

10mmx40 through the fork leg
8mmx35 from the bracket to the caliper itself

Here's how it looks mounted.

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