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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 11-04-2018, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
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Hello All, Purchased an '08 Versys with 39k miles: 2 Bros slip on & Juice Box, full Givi cases and windscreen, new chain & sprockets and tires. PO got a new bike, but, was on top of maintenance. Cleaning her up and going to check her out over winter. PO said oil was changed recently, but, it looks dirty. I seem to remember reading something like that in a post (oil looks dirty quickly). Break fluid looks clean, but, rear is not really effective. Fronts grab hard and compress the forks. Thoughts:
- Change oil (Rotella T5 or T6?)
- Check valve clearances
- Balance TBs (Idle thumb screw backed all the way out and it idles ~1.5k, is that the Juice Box, or, poorly adjusted throttle cables?)
- Check charging system (should I do the Polaris swap, or, play roulette)
- R1 shock swap?
- Front fork re-valve, oil swap?
- Suggestions?
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Lots of recommendations, one red flag, was the valve shim check done and when? TB balance is a direct reflection of valve clearance if no one screwed with the TB. Brake fluid changed when? I was alarmed on my 07 when I first did a brake fluid change on the front, came out orange near the last. Oil mobil 1 15/50 , been using now for 30,000 KM several others on this forum and I got the recommendation from Fasteddiecopeman, who has racked up well over 150,000 miles on 3 different Versys . Rear brake is useless and it's effectiveness is directly reflected by the tires on the bike, keep in mind the front does 90-95% of the braking, a adjustment of the brake pedal and the brake light can help, just remember , unless you are doing trail riding and downhill , any other use of the rear brake could very easily put you in a skid, braking action shifts weight off the rear wheel. I switched from Dunlops to PR3 when I had the 07, a world of difference, typically I would engine brake and eventually use my front brake combined with engine braking, some times I would use first the front and then heavy on the front with light rear braking during a emergency stop ( a very rare occurrence for me using the rear brake as primary stopping)

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Hello All, Purchased an '08 Versys with 39k miles: 2 Bros slip on & Juice Box, full Givi cases and windscreen, new chain & sprockets and tires. PO got a new bike, but, was on top of maintenance. Cleaning her up and going to check her out over winter. PO said oil was changed recently, but, it looks dirty. I seem to remember reading something like that in a post (oil looks dirty quickly). Break fluid looks clean, but, rear is not really effective. Fronts grab hard and compress the forks. Thoughts:
- Change oil (Rotella T5 or T6?)
- Check valve clearances
- Balance TBs (Idle thumb screw backed all the way out and it idles ~1.5k, is that the Juice Box, or, poorly adjusted throttle cables?)
- Check charging system (should I do the Polaris swap, or, play roulette)
- R1 shock swap?
- Front fork re-valve, oil swap?
- Suggestions?
I TOO have a '08 [bought new in '08], w/ 79,780 MILES on it now.

MY rear brake was GREATLY improved when I went to SS brake lines, on all three discs.

Yes - the oil looks dirty as soon as you ride it after changing oil - no biggee - and I use M1 15w-50 w/ a 5K mile oil/filter change interval.

The Polaris R/R is a VG change - might keep you from doing this:



The R1 shock is a VERY good swap! (That's the same R1 shock on both the green Vs, an '09 and a '15).







I improved the front-end feel on all THREE of my Vs when I changed the forks to ATF (an 'old' enduro-riding trick).



AND (unless you're assured that the valves have been "done" lately, and PROPERLY), check them and set them to the MAX clearances.

FWIW - I have ALWAYS run my tires at 36psiF, 42psiR, and that includes street rubber, dual-sport and full knobbies, on the recommendation of the mechanic where I picked up my first, the '08.

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Thank for the welcome and advice, onewizard. Is there some milestone I have to achieve in order to follow a link in an article? For example, I was reading this article (so I can't post a link with a URL 'cuz I only have 1 post, so I edited this): /forums/170-technical-discussion-v-650/218333-heated-grips-interesting-find and clicked on the link in post #4 and got this message:

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Thank you fasteddie. If you posted pictures, I can't see them. Is that a permissions thing? I'm still researching the R1 swap. Did you use the stock Versys spring with the R1 shock? Seems some people think the R1 spring isn't enough (I weight 200 lbs before gear, bags, etc.).


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Thank you fasteddie. If you posted pictures, I can't see them. Is that a permissions thing? I'm still researching the R1 swap. Did you use the stock Versys spring with the R1 shock? Seems some people think the R1 spring isn't enough (I weight 200 lbs before gear, bags, etc.).
You'll be able to see the pics after several posts and 48 hours. BOTH my R1 shocks have 13.8 kg/mm Eibach springs (I'm 180# before gearing-up, so about 200 after).

The shock in the R1 Yamaha is NOT direct-acting as it is in the Versys, so the OEM R1 spring in way too soft. SOME big guys (like you) use the spring from the OEM Versys shock, so that could be worth a try.

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