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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 11:02 AM Thread Starter
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650R that pretends to be a Versys

Hiya everybody!! I've been lurking here on your forum since before I even bought my bike, as the Versys is the bike I'd like to have. However, they are out of my price range and I couldn't have been more lucky than to stumble upon my 650R.

I love my 2006 Ninja 650R. Coming off of big, heavy sport tourers (C10 Connie, ST1100), she's light, nimble, sips fuel and is a heck of a lot easier to manage off pavement. Bought her for a pennance spring of last year with 6k, now she's got 36k. I work from home, so they are all "for fun" miles. Salvage title, nothing to look at, a great runner. 90/10 pavement/dirt roads right now, and that number is steadily leaning further towards the dirt side! I find the two limiting factors to be suspension and tires. I can't afford to swap suspension at the moment (Versys front end and rear shock perhaps?), so looking into some tires to give me a bit more confidence at speed on fire roads.

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Best option for tires is probably the Scorpion Trails in the stock sizes of 120/70 and 160/60.
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Thanks Sprocket! Considering those and the Syncs in stock sizes. Also considering the Distanzas in the SM compound stock size front and the 150/70 regular compound rear. The Shinko 705s and Tourances with the 130/80 front are on the maybe list, I'm here to figure out exactly how much I have to raise the front fender to see if I can make it work with the fairings (would have to move my upper lights for sure).
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Smash, that's a real nice looking 650R you have. As for tires, I agree with Sprockets recommendation of the Scorpion Trails. I had a set of Syncs on my Buell Ulysses XT, and while they gripped and handled great, they were toast by 3,000 miles.

I've had very good experience with Tourances, as well. In fact, when it comes time to replace tires on my V, I'm probably going to go with a Tourance rear and a Scorpion Trail on the front. I'm not concerned about mixing and matching, however.


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Smash, that's a real nice looking 650R you have. As for tires, I agree with Sprockets recommendation of the Scorpion Trails. I had a set of Syncs on my Buell Ulysses XT, and while they gripped and handled great, they were toast by 3,000 miles.

I've had very good experience with Tourances, as well. In fact, when it comes time to replace tires on my V, I'm probably going to go with a Tourance rear and a Scorpion Trail on the front. I'm not concerned about mixing and matching, however.
Thanks for the thumbs up for the Scorpion Trails! Definitely gonna have to get more than 3k out of 'em, we'll see what happens.

Question though, why run a more aggressive tire in the rear? I thought you would want a more aggressive tire up front, where the grip really matters. Spinning the back tire a little won't upset anybody. Do the tourances last longer than the Scorpion Trails? I also figured you'd want the longer lasting tire out back...


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Yes, it is because the Tourance lasts a long time......and it's a damn good tire. If they made a Tourance "front" that fit the V, I would be all over it. I will not put a rear tire on the front, however, but that's just me.

When I had my GS, I tried several dual sport tires, but couldn't find anything I liked as well as the Tourances.


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Interesting. I guess I assumed having more grip out back than up front would be a recipee for disaster. I'll look around the forum to see who else has run the combo. Let us know how it goes!


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I run Tourances, 130/80 and 150/70 on my '08, and I picked up TWO more of the same which are on 'standby' for when my '09 needs its next set of tires.

IF you do put a 130/80 (rear) onto the front, it REALLY makes the steering heavy, although by 100 miles I no longer even notice it, BUT I will NOT 'swap' bikes with anyone when I'm on Tourances, because of that initial heaviness!

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The set of Tourances you're running would be ideal for me, however with the fairings on the 650R I don't think I have any room to raise my front fender. So going to try the Scorpion Trails first. When I swap a Versys front end onto my 650R that hopefully will give me the room I need to raise that front fender and run the Tourances. Now if I could just find a Versys front end...

Going to run Scorpion Trails on my girlfriend's ZR-7 next too, she's as good as I am in the dirt (I'm just a little faster, although I also fall over more...). Once I get the Versys front end and shock swapped over, we'll raise her front fender too and run the Tourances. I think the ZR-7 will look sweet with the mildly nubby tires....







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Your not missing much comparing the Versys to the Ninja on dirt. The V has a very high CG which is the cause of much butt puckering when I take it off road. The stock tires have a lot to do with it's poor performance too...
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Yeah? The biggest issue I have with my Ninja offroad is the suspension is sooooooo tight. The front is actually oversprung, a first for me with all the bikes I've owned. I just need a little big more cushion before I rattle myself to death!


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