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First oil change today

I'm about to give my new VX its first oil change! Can't wait to get past the break-in phase.
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Dang, that oil comes out fast! I want to know how people keep it from squirting all over the place!?
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Dang, that oil comes out fast! I want to know how people keep it from squirting all over the place!?
Do not remove the fill plug until it's all most drained

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Dang, that oil comes out fast! I want to know how people keep it from squirting all over the place!?
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Put a BIG pan under BEFORE you remove the plug...!


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I second the big pan comment. Changed mine for the first time Thursday and put the pan directly under the plug. Almost missed the pan edge.
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i still use a 5 lit cut out of a old oil can and no spill what so ever.
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I agree, the break-in period is agonizing! I used aluminum foil. Easy to shape and keeps oil off parts.
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I agree, the break-in period is agonizing! I used aluminum foil. Easy to shape and keeps oil off parts.
I AGREE, and I (along w/ MANY others) used the "Motoman" method -

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

to 'break-in' all THREE of my Vs, on the ride home from the dealer, then changed the oil, and AGAIN at 500 and 1,000 miles, when I went to Mobil1 15w-50 synthetic.

NONE have had engine issues, or burned oil. My '08 has 75,xxx miles; my '09 had 63,xxx kms; and my '15 has 49,xxx kms.

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I second the big pan comment. Changed mine for the first time Thursday and put the pan directly under the plug. Almost missed the pan edge.
I use (bottom to top: )

a) large (4x4 foot) piece of cardboard to soak up the inevitable oil burps

b) a large oil oil drip pan, the flat square type that goes under incontinent cars

c) a large oil pan with a piece of hardware cloth (the square hole galvanized wire screen) over the top so I don't have to fish for the oil plug and/or have the oil filter do a double somersault before going for a splashy finish in the oil pan

d) a 17mm socket with an extension

e) put aluminum foil over pipes, make drip ends in the foil. remove plug with a rag over the oil plug to minimize oil spurts. let the oil drip out for an hour or two

f) remove the oil filter with a socket-type fluted filter removal tool

g) let the filter drip for a half hour

h) CAREFULLY measure the amount of oil going in

i) replace filter: USE A TORQUE WRENCH!

j) replace plug: replace the washer (some do, some don't,) USE A TORQUE WRENCH! pour oil in using a plastic funnel

k) remove oil pan

l) start engine, check for leaks

m) have a beer

n) check oil level after an hour or so. It should be middle of the oil glass level


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With pressure, the oil never drips straight down until the end. After the first time, you should have a pretty good idea of where oil ends up so you know to position the pan better the next!

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c) a large oil pan with a piece of hardware cloth (the square hole galvanized wire screen) over the top so I don't have to fish for the oil plug and/or have the oil filter do a double somersault before going for a splashy finish in the oil pan

i) replace filter: USE A TORQUE WRENCH!

j) replace plug: replace the washer (some do, some don't,) USE A TORQUE WRENCH!...
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c) - I use a magnetic extension-wand in case it falls into the oil pan.
i) - I NEVER use a torque wrench on the filter! Each filter has a diagram on it showing that you first oil the gasket, then turn the filter IN till it contacts the engine, then an additional 3/4 or FULL turn. NEVER had a leak.
j) - ALWAYS use a torque-wrench! OVER tighten this and it can co$t you a bundle, as 22#/' is NOT much. I re-use copper gaskets that I re-anneal each time I remove them.


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Torque wrench on an oil filter? Not necessary, although this is what the manual states:

Hand tightening of the oil filter can not be allowed since
it does not reach to this tightening torque.

Apparently the technical writer for the manual has little sissy hands!
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Torque wrench on an oil filter? Not necessary, although this is what the manual states:

Hand tightening of the oil filter can not be allowed since
it does not reach to this tightening torque.

Apparently the technical writer for the manual has little sissy hands!
Or Superman hands that overtighten (not likely.)

I usually use a torque wrench because torque is cheap (free), and then I have peace of mind in my little twisted world... There are as many opinions on this as there are mechanics. almost as many opinions on the timeless question: "what oil do you use?"
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Torque wrench on an oil filter? Not necessary, although this is what the manual states:

Hand tightening of the oil filter can not be allowed since
it does not reach to this tightening torque.

Apparently the technical writer for the manual has little sissy hands!
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Or Superman hands that overtighten (not likely.)

I usually use a torque wrench because torque is cheap (free), and then I have peace of mind in my little twisted world... There are as many opinions on this as there are mechanics. almost as many opinions on the timeless question: "what oil do you use?"
I use a 3/8" ratchet to turn my oil-filters that 3/4 or 1 turn, for TWO reasons: 1. I guess I have "sissy" hands......; and 2. as well as watching the filter as I tighten it, I can ALSO judge the amount of 'turn' by watching the ratchet handle (I do several 1/4 turns).

I torqued a filter ONCE when I was 'chasing-down' an oil leak on my '08 - at 13 pound/feet I turned it just about 2 1/2 times, which, considering that the filter had written on it...turn one turn after it seats...I thought was a BIT much!


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