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Painted Rocks Petroglyph site in AZ!

Tuesday was forecast to be about 70F, sunny, so I decided to ride W to the Painted Rocks site, take some pics, then ride back home.

Left at 0750 wearing my heated jacket liner set at TWO, my heated grips at MEDIUM but soon were increased to MEDIUM + one, and I was toasty warm, enjoying the AZ landscape as I rode thru Casa Grande, W on 84 via Francisco Grande Golf course where I turned the jacket OFF but left the grips now at MEDIUM, continuing W past John Wayne's old RED RIVER Ranch, now a feedlot then onto I-8, W for about an hour to EXIT 102, then N past a large solar power site - 1.2 miles long heading N - and LONGER YET in the W edge!

About 11 miles later I pulled into the Painted Rocks Petroglyph site, parked BIG RED, then, camera in hand, walked thru it taking a few pics, the site estimated at around 12,000 years old. A sign explained that the basalt rocks turn dark over a long period of exposure to the desert, and that early passers-by would scrape pictures thru the dark, down to the light colored basalt. Without further ado...

IMG_0194 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

...impossible to say IF these dated 'signatures' are TRULY originals...

IMG_0195 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

IMG_0196 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

IMG_0197 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

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IMG_0200 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

The next TWO pics are different exposures of the same pic to show more of its detail!

IMG_0201 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

IMG_0201B by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

IMG_0202 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

IMG_0203 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

IMG_0204 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

IMG_0205 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

IMG_0206 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

VERY neat historical place, and just around the corner is this adobe ruin I sat in to get a selfie picture, before getting back onto I-8 to home.

IMG_0210 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

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Stopped for lunch (a half-pound burger w/ ALL the trimmings, plus fries) at Francisco Grande, then back E on 84 thru Casa Grande, to the Coolidge Airport to see whether the runway re-surfacing had been completed (NOPE, not done YET!), then rode the 10 miles home, and a cold beer. Arrived back home about 1700 after a 259 mile day.

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There are similar petroglyphs here and elsewhere in N. America. Its pretty obvious that there were people in the Americas long before the Europeans and they deserve alot more respect from us. I hope they can get some of their Mojo back...
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Someone did a LOT of doodling..........

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Very nice. But it's a shame some folks just can't resist defacing objects. There is a similar site north of Alamogordo, NM, known as Three Rivers Petroglyphs there are, as I recall, 1200 or so fascinating etchings left by the Red Paint people some 8000 or so years ago - they didn't date their work.

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There are similar petroglyphs here and elsewhere in N. America. Its pretty obvious that there were people in the Americas long before the Europeans and they deserve alot more respect from us. I hope they can get some of their Mojo back...
I don't think there is a single first grade educated person alive that doesn't know there were peoples in the Americas before the Europeans arrived.

Many of these peoples disappeared long before the Europeans arrived.

We were taught that the Bering Straight land bridge is how the first peoples migrated to the Americas. Of course that would mean that climate change is a natural cycle that trapped all that water in ice way back when.
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I've been to the Petroglyph National Monument off I-40 which is very similar to what you saw, but better protected.

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Very nice. But it's a shame some folks just can't resist defacing objects....
I visited the "Casa Grande Ruins" Nat'l Park in Coolidge, AZ, and the fellow giving the tour mentioned that it is a crime to deface something like that, so I brought up the name of a 7th Cavalry sgt who scratched his name onto a wall (visible thru a barred door), dated about 1870 or so. He replied that as the name was OVER 50 years old - IT TOO is now protected under the same Act of Congress.

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...Of course that would mean that climate change is a natural cycle that trapped all that water in ice way back when.
But of course! Ever heard about the "ice ages"? Last one is still present, tho' it began to "melt" about 14,000 years ago.... Guess there were LOTS of Ford F-150s in North America back then...!


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I've been to the Petroglyph National Monument off I-40 which is very similar to what you saw, but better protected.

Saw this in UT during my '12 Versys ride as seen in my signature links.
Sad that some idiots w/ rifles had to do 'target practice' on them. Did you ever see Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods" where he claimed that those figures were "spacemen" rather than Indians wearing deer-antler headpieces?

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There are similar petroglyphs here and elsewhere in N. America. Its pretty obvious that there were people in the Americas long before the Europeans and they deserve alot more respect from us. I hope they can get some of their Mojo back...
I know this is slightly off topic, but I was floored to know in 2020 there are approximately 15,000 people in the Navajo Nation without electricity;



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I know this is slightly off topic, but I was floored to know in 2020 there are approximately 15,000 people in the Navajo Nation without electricity;



The cost of a pole line is very expensive and many times the payback will never meet the cost of maintenance let alone the installation cost. As a retired IBEW member I get this news letter.



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I guess the Navajo Nation doesn't have casinos. I worked with a guy in NM that is a tribal member of a Casino owning tribe and he gets a stipend for just being a member. Living well.

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when I toured Bhutan I was surprised to find that most people had at least some electric. not talking about the cities, but people in the small villages and along the road. micro-hydro and solar

if I'm answering your question I assume the basic points have been addressed, such as: did you do a compression test? is it still on fire?
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Nice work Eddie.

What kind of paint did you use?

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Good Info & Ride. Thanks mate. Those painting looking like from ancient aliens.
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Good Info & Ride. Thanks mate. Those painting looking like from ancient aliens.
There's a place in Utah called McConkey Ranch which has many panels of such ancient art. It indeed looks like ancient aliens! Some of them really can't be imagined as anything else, given our experiences in the modern world.
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Nice work Eddie.

What kind of paint did you use?
You know - that "Rust-Proof" kind...!

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I don't think there is a single first grade educated person alive that doesn't know there were peoples in the Americas before the Europeans arrived....
Many times I have talked to educated people of European descent ,like myself, in N. America and Ill hear something like" Our people were the first settlers here back in....". The indigenous people here had no concept of land ownership and we scammed them or worse.

Many of these peoples disappeared long before the Europeans arrived.

Im sure the millions in both Americas that died from our imported diseases and systematic genocide will find that comforting.

We were taught that the Bering Straight land bridge is how the first peoples migrated to the Americas. Of course that would mean that climate change is a natural cycle that trapped all that water in ice way back when.

They think that they came in different waves over the Bering islands ice bridge and the originals 20,000 or more years ago. The first wave settled in the north as the ice sheets didnt allow them to migrate. Some think also that a migration later came by west coastal boats over many millennium all the way down to S.America. Alot of opinions on that. Climate change... Once Alaska was the tropics and the Sahara desert was lush and green. Stuff happens and humans have only been around for a blink of an eye in geological terms. If we reverted back to an Ice Age we would have to employ a skill that we are very good at to warm the planet, creating greenhouse gases! Because the planet is so populated now I wonder how many would survive.
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Climate change... Once Alaska was the tropics and the Sahara desert was lush and green. Stuff happens and humans have only been around for a blink of an eye in geological terms.
And there are those who promise to change the temperature of the planet if we vote for them.

Last I checked they could not even count their votes in Iowa.

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