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the Apache Trail... BACKWARDS!

I had to ride to a shoe repair place that's about 47 miles from here, and his shop is VERY close to Country Club Rd which just happens to be AZ 87, the "Beeline Hwy", which heads NE and cuts across AZ 188, which heads SW to the TOP of AZ 88 - the Apache Trail, and about 20 miles of dirt road. (The local shoe-repair fellow near my home has retired......)

IMAGINE THAT!

So I can pick up my boots, then turn the 47 miles BACK to home into a MUCH better ride totaling 215 miles. What's not to like?

The FIRST 47 miles was (IS...) pretty uneventful, but just after leaving the shop, getting onto Country Club Rd and turned N, the Greater Phoenix area getting smaller in my rear-views - another ADVENTURE ride happening.

Here's the view about 30 minutes in



(that's the Four Peaks behind that saguaro), then at an hour 'in' I turned onto AZ 188, and stopped for a lunch-break.





Not far S from there, Roosevelt Lake starts (it's the impoundment of the Roosevelt Dam)





and soon the Rainbow Bridge at the Dam came into view.



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I pulled into a 'turn-off' expecting a better view of the Bridge, but saw some kind of monument at the end of the turn-off - WHAT is it?



I rode over to it and saw that it's a monument to Al Seiber, a famous army scout from the Apache wars. If any of you saw the movie "Geronimo" - Al Sieber was played by Robert Duval.







As a result of seeing "Geronimo" MANY times, it was very interesting to see that Sieber had died right there! (I seem to recall the movie indicating his death at the hands of some American outlaws....)I took a few more pics of the Bridge





then headed W onto the dirt.
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Nice pics Eddie.............thanks.
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Thanks for sharing! Great pics and write-up!
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...gettin' DIRTY!

Put my camera back, cleared the road beside me, then started W. Despite signs warning against any vehicles over 40 feet, I saw (and QUICKLY PASSED...) two huge pickups each pulling a LON-N-G travel trailer, apparently trying to decide...
1. does that restriction apply to ME? or
2. how the HELL do I get this THING turned around?

About a quarter mile in, there's a very tight switch-back they would have great difficulty getting around, and in fact - on an earlier ride I saw a semi all screwed-up there after HE ignored that warning.

Anyway now onto the "close-to-ORIGINAL" Apache Trail about 26 miles to Tortilla Flat.



It was used to bring materials from the Phoenix area to build the Roosevelt Dam, way-back-when, and here's a link to a pretty good description of it:
Apache Trail

There's several country songs about ...'some place' in the rear-view mirror, and here's the "fasteddie" version.



Unfortunately the day was NOT sunny, so bare w/ me







tho' it DID come out for short periods....



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...still dirty...

FAIRLY rugged terrain



and here's Apache Lake coming into view....



The Fish Creek Hill is a notable, dangerous, location - about one to one-and-a-half lanes wide, VERY twisty, w/ a STEEP drop-off on the E side of it, MUCH safer going down then it is going UP as IF you misjudge - the fall WILL kill you, and that's a view of it ahead, about a mile away....





Just a quarter mile ahead, across a narrow (single-lane) bridge, then the road turns sharp right and starts climbing...



and you can see some road reinforcements in this pic.



I saw the "awning" from a trailer/motorhome just above here, down the cliff aways, but could NOT stop for a pic due to the danger, and as awnings are on the RIGHT side.... The FOOL that was driving that RV UP the Hill must've had a VERY close call....

Above a bit is a place that you can stop for a pic, so I did - here's the view E of where I'd just come from.



From below, on that road in the pic, you can see wreckage of vehicles that had gone over the cliff....

The road is still pretty steep



but there IS another place where there's even enough room for a 4-wheeler to pull over, just above.



ANOTHER view, down and E....



The Trail had been very washboardy, so I looked forward to the start of the paved road, pulled over for a 'hero-picture'



and after around six miles of it, I passed thru Tortilla Flat, AMAZED to see the road freshly paved, in the best shape I've ever seen it. For two or three miles, then traffic ground to a halt, where we stayed for 15 minutes while awaiting a "follow-me" truck.



As I waited I remembered how appalled I had been when I rode this in October, the pavement in deplorable condition, but VERY pleased by the progress I was now seeing, THEN the line started moving again, and the NEW pavement ended!

There were many construction crews and vehicles there, working at grinding off the top of the OLD, and laying a 4" layer of NEW asphalt, interspersed w/ heaved-sections of old pavement that are actually ROUGHER than was the washboard parts of the dirt road...!

Traffic was bumper-to-bumper to the end of the Trail, then glad to be off it I transitioned to AZ 60 and AZ 79, then home, finally arriving home 6 hours 23 minutes after leaving, 215.5 miles on my GPS, those LONG delays lengthening my day.

Filled up the gas tank in Apache Junction, getting 52 mpgUS. PDG actually...!
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Apache Trail seems to attract people with huge RVs and minimal common sense... last time was a guy coming down Fish Grade with about a 25' travel trailer, pulling it with an explorer or some other small-ish SUV. Woman in the passenger seat looked terrified. They had yet to see the jeep pulling a tent trailer coming up from the bottom. Now how's that gonna work????

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...I saw the "awning" from a trailer/motorhome just above here, down the cliff aways, but could NOT stop for a pic due to the danger, and as awnings are on the RIGHT side.... The FOOL that was driving that RV UP the Hill must've had a VERY close call....
On SECOND thought - he MIGHT have been going DOWN, caught his awning on the rock-face, ripping it OFF, then either he or the next vehicle, picked it off the road and 'chucked' it over the side....

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Apache Trail seems to attract people with huge RVs and minimal common sense... last time was a guy coming down Fish Grade with about a 25' travel trailer, pulling it with an explorer or some other small-ish SUV. Woman in the passenger seat looked terrified. They had yet to see the jeep pulling a tent trailer coming up from the bottom. Now how's that gonna work????

Love the ride pics, Eddie....
Joe - have to say, of all the times I've ridden Fish Creek Hill, going UP it is ALWAYS nerve-wracking. I'm DEFINITELY standing on the 'pegs ALL THE WAY!!!

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Wow what amazing scenery,nothing like that around here.I better take some photos next time and post them,its all green or sea here.
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Another great ride report from the Fast man. Nice work Eddie.

Hey I actually got to ride your route this morning... compliments of Google Earth.

I was amazed to discover the camera car actually went along the 88 including the dirt section. In California they must be pussies because they always stop about a quarter mile into the dirt roads.

Oh and love the hang man on the front of the first store in Tortilla Flats...Lol. What a place!

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Wow what amazing scenery,nothing like that around here.I better take some photos next time and post them,its all green or sea here.
I'm SURE that you have as good (or BETTER!) scenery in New Zealand - it's just that you're USED TO IT...!




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Beautiful pics. I was curious though, how did you mount the Tusk Panniers to your Versys? I have their boxes and I am having custom racks made for them. Also, what tires are you using there? I'd like to hit roads and trails similar to what you have done on this report with my V someday.
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Beautiful pics. I was curious though, how did you mount the Tusk Panniers to your Versys? I have their boxes and I am having custom racks made for them. Also, what tires are you using there? I'd like to hit roads and trails similar to what you have done on this report with my V someday.
My racks are GiVi PL447, and the mounting hardware was from Happy Trails (around $56US or so...). Those tires are SHINKO E705s, BOTH are rears - 130/80 x 17 on the front (REQUIRES the fender be raised [1.75" in this case]), and 150/70 x 17 on the rear running 36 psi F, 42psi R (and I NEVER "air-down", so as to protect the rims from impact-damage...), but on my Gen 3 I run same tires, but using a 120/70 x 17 on the front (so the fender is NOT raised).

I find that they work VERY well in every condition I've ridden in, including rain.

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