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Been motorcycle only... time for a cage?

Hey All...

I sold my car (2007 Mazda6) about a year ago and have been motorcycle-only since. I've really enjoyed the freedom in doing so but have had recent thoughts of buying a vehicle (probably partially instigated by an accident I got in a couple months back which rendered me vehicle-less until I bought the V from a fellow forumer).

I've been thinking light pickup truck (to pair up with my V), or a small car (for fuel efficiency's sake). Of course, I may not go cage again for a while. Curious what everybody thinks...? And what vehicles you all have paired up with your motorcycles and why (if there's any reason at all)...?

Take 'er easy.
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Me? Cage first. Motorcycle Second. My V is a pleasure vehicle and a commuter (when the weather is nice).

I had a MC with no car for my first year of adulthood. I vowed never to do that again. That was 22 years ago.
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I'm also "motorcycle-only". I bought a car a year ago but that was for my wife. We used to be a 1 motorcycle only family...

I would like to buy a car for myself but I can't really handle 2 car payments right now. Plus the extra cost in insurance and maintenance.

If I were to buy a car it would be a compact...they are cheaper and get better gas mileage. I already bought a light weight 8 foot trailer that I can tow with a compact car whether I need to haul the bike or furniture. No need to insure the trailer so way better than a pick up.
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Me? Cage first. Motorcycle Second. My V is a pleasure vehicle and a commuter (when the weather is nice).

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The Versys won't pull my boat, and won't make it through the Iowa snow. Ford Ranger.


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Ditto on the snow. "Ride my bike all year or get a car too?" Now there's a problem I wish I had, but in Canada there's just no question. I wish I didn't need a car.

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I have a cage that is paid off so i use it for rain and snow days. For me it's MC first and Cage if i have to.

I have been tempted to sell the car and get a Ural but haven't...yet.

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I ride year round, but I can borrow my wife's car if I really need it for some reason. We do have a 'farm' truck also if need be. I average over 20,000 miles a year.
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I use my car for boring long-distance journeys, and those involving passengers.

Therefore, it has to be fit for the Autobahn.
My motorcycles are for recreation, be it a quick evening lap or a week-long trip around Europe.

And my scooter is for commuting. I only use the car to commute when the roads are icy.

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Versys, Versa, Versai?

I've been thinking Nissan "Versa", small, fuel efficient and if the name is any indication, it would be a great choice. Both a Versys and a Versa would probably easily fit into one single car garage too.

My need is for simple transport only, no towing or anything.
In the end though I'd have to agree with others that have said, essentially, get what is most affordable and suits your needs best.
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I've been thinking Nissan "Versa", small, fuel efficient and if the name is any indication, it would be a great choice. Both a Versys and a Versa would probably easily fit into one single car garage too.

My need is for simple transport only, no towing or anything.
In the end though I'd have to agree with others that have said, essentially, get what is most affordable and suits your needs best.
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Curious what everybody thinks...? And what vehicles you all have paired up with your motorcycles and why (if there's any reason at all)...?

I have a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser. Yes it's a gas guzzler, but I want and need it's utility, and although it's not PC in this era of Hybrids and Subcompacts, I love it.

Price:
When I bought mine, they started at $22,000 new without options. About $1000 more than a standard Camry today. Now they start at $25000, which is 5000$ less than a 4runner, which has more seats, but the same engine and more weight.

Passengers:
It comfortably seats 2, and uncomfortably seats 5. Those other 3 people wont always be bumming rides unless they are children, and then the children will be happy in the back anyways.

Safety:
Has a good crash/rollover rating. Lots of airbags, including side curtain. It has a traction control and stability control, and doesn't get tipsy in turns due to thick sway bars.

Mechanical:
It has a 4.0L, 240hp, 280 ft/lb, V6. It has a carrying capacity of 1000lbs, and a towing capacity of 5000 lbs. Mine has a 5 speed automatic transmission with a 2 speed 4wd transfer case and a rear axle differential lock, which makes the beach and camping without the bike a little less worrying in sandy or muddy conditions. There's also a factory supercharger from TRD for 4000$ if you want more power and less mpg.

Internal Utility:
The interior has no carpeting which makes cleaning easily. The rear seats fold down alright enough to hold a large amount of cargo. The rear window opens to transport 2x4's and fishing poles no problem.

External Utility:
The spare tire is rear door mounted eliminating the annoyances of tire changes involving lowering the spare with a underslung winch, which is handy on the side of the road when it's muddy. Mine has a roof rack with a high carrying capacity. The trailer receiver can hold 500lbs which will hold a rear motorcycle carrier (I've done it)

Why I don't like pickups: I own a half-ton trailer with a rear ramp. It's a million times easier to load my bike on a trailer, than in a pickup bed IMO. Also pickups tend to be lighter in ass, and I've had issues in the rain with traction in turns. I've owned an 4x4 S10 4.3L and a 2wd Silverado 5.3L before, they were nice inside, but they got the same mileage as the 4x4 SUV's I've owned: 4x4 Ford Explorer Sport 4.0, and 2007 FJ Cruiser 4x4 4.0. I would probably never buy a 4 cylinder pickup, simply because I feel it kills a lot of their utility.

That said, I would buy a car. I'm interested in the Mazda MX-5 Miata or the Suburu WRX Impreza STI. Neither are fuel efficient, but I imagine are a lot of fun.

You might notice I'm not really up on fuel efficiency on my four wheel vehicles. It's not that I hate the environment. Hell I live in Texas, I got family in Houston, Dallas and El Paso. I should really be interested in fuel economy.

However:

1. I've been stuck in mud before in other vehicles: it sucks, it sucks so much I have a winch. Most people don't go to places unpaved, I do.

2. I use my bike as my economic choice. I ride it most of the year every day.

3. When I drive someplace in my truck I want to be comfortable and be able to haul ****. Usually when I use my truck it's because I have to pick something large up.

4. When I go long distances I want to either ride my bike or carry my bike so I can ride it where I'm going. I'll also be carrying maybe more than 2 people, so why would I use a 4 door pickup which is a less comfortable SUV with a bed that I don't want to load a bike into.

This is all just my opinion, I feel this vehicle is the right one for me. I realize it's not the right one for everybody, not everyone needs this type of vehicle. I bought it new in 2007, it's got 80,000 miles on it so far, with ZERO mechanic problems. I expect to keep it till over 200,000 miles.

My bike isn't a trailer queen, I did an 1800 mile trip over the summer. However I do like the option of bringing my truck and bike to places at the same time.

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Me? Cage first. Motorcycle Second. My V is a pleasure vehicle and a commuter (when the weather is nice).

I had a MC with no car for my first year of adulthood. I vowed never to do that again. That was 22 years ago.
ditto

besides I really like driving my little Ford Fiesta...its just fun to drive and cheap to run.
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I have a 2011 Golf TDI which we use as the family hauler. Surprising amount of legroom, i am 6'4" and i can drive comfortably with a rear facing car seat behind me (we have two kids in car seats). A 2005 Jetta tdi wagon that we use for utility and commuting inclement weather (with the rear seats down the the boxy shape there is plenty of room for all kinds of stuff). Also it is rated to tow 2200 pounds so when the kids are a little older it will be towing my bayliner 160 OB rated at 1700 lbs with trailer. And for date nights and really windy days like today we have a 1988 vw cabriolet.

Mpgs - versys (sold) 52 mpgs, klr650 56 mpgs, tu250x 80 mpgs, 2011 tdi, 47.5 mpgs (11k mile average), 2005 tdi 46 mpgs (136k mile average), cabriolet odometer doesnt work so i havent calculated mpgs (winter project) but its prolly around 25-30 mpgs, smells as tho it is running rich, but if they are running its best not to bother with them lol.

We do about 10K combined on bikes and 20k per car and maybe 2k on the cabriolet. So gas mileage is a huge reason for the diesels also love the torque and the road hold the golf has.
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I own my V and a scooter. I use them to do everything. Then again its just me and I live in Atlanta. So unless its a freak winter and it snows or there's freezing rain I'm good. We do have some car service thing called ZipCar, I may sign up for that so I can use a car when I need to without actually having to own it.
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Subaru Impreza here :-P
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Subaru Impreza here :-P
I hate that smug face, I hate it!

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Thanks for the input, y'all! If forced to, I'd probably end up with a Fiesta/Fiat500/Honda Fit/CR-Z... etc etc... somewhere in that class. I took a quick glance at Toyota's equivalent but find them very boring.

For now, it's highly likely I'll stick with the V only. I just installed a Top Case and am finding it quite handy. Also, given my location (Southern California), it's rare that we have bad riding weather. Although the "rainy" season is coming up, and I'll need to get my modular rain gear together.
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I in northern Cali and only have a V it's all I can afford. Not sure when or or if I will ever go back to a car again as it is way to expensive. It all depends on what you can afford. And what your willing to put up with weather wise. Guess were lucky in Ca with the nice weather year round
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