I need to get my front wheel off but don't want to buy an expensive pit bull stand if I don't have to since I'd only use this once or twice a year. Are there any other alternatives? I've read about jacking under the muffler but am afraid this will damage the muffler with the small pressure point my car jack would create.
No real need to buy an expensive pit bull stand. Try your local Cycle Gear if you have one near you. If not, go online. I have seen specials for both the front and rear for less than $100.
I made a "stiff" jack out of the bottom of a crutch. I got the idea from a thread on this forum. You could search that thread and there are several pics of the method. I jack the bike with the crutch tied to my SWMotech crash bar on the right side. I rock the bike to the left and it comes to rest on three points, the jack, the sidestand and the rear wheel. Not the most desirable way to do it but it can work to remove the wheel. I would rather have the stand and do intend to buy one someday. Probably as soon as "my ship comes in".
$$$ or safety is a question you need to answer. best way to have the bike secured for any work will be a proper stand . saves you, the bike and your pocket.
+1. You don't have to buy a pit bull, but get a front stand. If your bike falls off of a contraption, you will be in far worse shape than paying for a front stand.
Many here have bought T-Rex Stands and have been quite pleased!
I use the car jack under the exhaust pipe method. Same concern on the tiny surface area of contact, so I use an old cut out rubber inner tube, fold many times over and place it between the pipes and jack.
If you get a front stand you have to have a decent back stand first to make the bike stable
100 bucks for the front from T-Rex, about 40 for the rear from harbor freight.
The price of the stands compared to the cost of replacing the bike or an er visit made it an easy choice for me
They aren't the best quality in the world but they work, no issues. With usage so easy, you'll find times like simply cleaning the wheels, changing oil, changing headlight bulb, lubing the chain, anything you install, etc etc etc.
Have had them for months now and wouldn't be without them. And YES! u absolutely have to have a rear one, can't use a front alone, bike will fall over. In case u didn't know.
I just found a screw stuck in my front tire when I got to work! I've got over 5,000 miles on the OEM tires, and they're about done anyway. There's a Michelin PR2 sitting at home if that durned screw will just stay where it is 'til I get there. . . .
I'm going to have to deal with this issue very shortly. Rest assured my solution will involve red-neck engineering! :guilty:
I just put on Michelin PR3s last night (with the help of a friend that has all the stuff)... My OEM Dunlops were looking quite weird...
They only have 5200 miles on them but it was time... and the new tires are part of the prep for a long July tour.
We had the bike up on proper front and rear stands and it was solid as a rock.
Here, I'm setting the rear on the jack-stands. Somebody posted this idea last week, so I thought that I'd give it a try. I believe the jack-stands worked very well for the back end of the bike--very stable. I used a piece of Schedule 40, 3/4" black iron pipe, 3' long as the bar.
Unfortunately, the jackstands aren't the best for changing out the front tire. I bought them to use while balancing newly-mounted tires. Naturally, I couldn't use them for that purpose with the motorcycle sitting on them! When it came time to install the front wheel back on the motorcycle, I found out that my Harbor Freight stands aren't tall enough--even in their highest position--to give me any support. And, the front-end is heavier anyway, so the stands aren't going to be able to lift the front without some other method of changing the balance.
So, I had to lift from the steering head anyway. . . .
For my purposes the "cherry picker"--style engine hoist is much more versatile than motorcycle stands. I s'pose others may not have the room to store an engine hoist or as many uses for one as I have found, though.
For my purposes the "cherry picker"--style engine hoist is much more versatile than motorcycle stands. I s'pose others may not have the room to store an engine hoist or as many uses for one as I have found, though.
I have a set of front and rear stands and I can lift my rear in about 10 seconds (no removing covers) and the front in another 15-20 seconds. I can have the entire bike in the air in under a minute including dragging out my stands.
To each his own, but I feel the proper stands are more stable and much faster than what you are doing.
Crude but works. And enduro stand will lift front or back for a tire change as well: http://www.endurostar.com I carry one on the husky, but works for the versys too.
You know, I don't remember, but I think was under the water pump area.
I never ran my bike with the lower plastic fairings, and now I've reinstalled them to sell the bike. Covers up all the good support points.
Do you have crash bars on the bike??? I used two bottle jacks to lift the front up just enough to get the wheel off using the crash bars as lift points. I put the back on a cheap swing arm stand. If the bike is going to be up in the air for a while I use GDI's method and hoist it with an engine hoist...those things have so many uses
In a pinch I have also used the loader on my tractor....
I use a floor jack with a piece of 2 X 4 cut so that it fits into the saddle of the jack.
A cheap swing arm lift keeps the bike stable while the bike is lifted using the
exhaust header as the lift point.
The front end is supported with a milk crate and 2 X 4's until reassembly. I leave the jack under the bike in case the front support would fail.
When I remove the front wheel all items are removed or loosened so that when the bike is supported by the jack all I have to do is remove the axle and wheel.
ok, i understand that one prong goes behind the fork and the other goes underneath.
do you use a crazy amount of force to get the stand under? maybe i need to put more force. i'm putting my whole body weight behind it.
wtf?
Well i'm 6'2" 280lbs so to me it doesn't seem like too much force. But yea you've got them on right just use more force or get someone to help you.:goodidea:
I lift both ends with motorcycle stands, then can set it up on my improved Happy Trails skid plate with both wheels off the ground.
There's also this possibility: UK Versys forum's hr100 of Haifa Israel came up with a frame lift that uses the hollow frame tube behind plastic frame covers:
whew...ok i got the front on.
it's all about technique.
i had to really lean into it and make sure the stand moved under the fork, making sure i was not moving the whole bike forward. the first few times i tried it i was moving the bike off the rear stand too.
i also cleaned the garage floor and the stand wheels a bit.
thx for the replies....now on to levering my pr3 on!
:thanx:
I use a set of T-Rex stands, the front will lift from the bottom of the fork OR the bottom of the Triple Tree. Much easier to change tire with the tree set-up. Never have had a problem and have used them on 4 bikes.
I saw a post about someone rigging up a homemade box and board stand. Bike fell over without the wheels in it. A KLR is a bit of a pig to have to pick up and puck back on a jacked up POS homemade lift.
Yes tools of any kind cost money BUT a good tool will pay for itself over time. My rule is is the tool cost less than paying to have the job done I buy the tool. Or it's it a tool I'll use all the time I buy.
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