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Engine temp readout

Anyone done it? I hate those idiot lights.Nice to monitor engne temps.
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water or oil?
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There are temperature sender adaptors that are installed on the rad hose after cutting it in half, but coolant only flows there when the thermostat is open. There's also the possibility of having a threaded Y adapter with the ECU's coolant temperature sensor, but that would cause the sensor and sender to be backed out from the coolant flow...
It would be easier to read oil temperature. A common 1/8" pipe thread temperature sender could be installed in the oil pressure access plug (3/8" pipe thread) by tapping a 1/8" pipe thread hole in it, or with a 3/8" NPTF male (1) to 1/8" NPTF (2) female adaptor.

# 5406-06-02 ($0.69) http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/product_p/5406.htm

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Koso temp gauge: http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/produc...fCatId=&mmyId=

Shindy temp gauge: http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/produc...fCatId=&mmyId=

Cyberdyne digital: http://www.cyberdynegauges.net/tempe...gesproduct.php

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thats what i was thinking

what idiot at kawasaki decided to not put a temp guage on a watercooled bike

even my buddies with a 250 kymco scooter has a temp guage....

and another thing...

with a digital display, why didnt they put in a gear position display??????
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thats what i was thinking

what idiot at kawasaki decided to not put a temp guage on a watercooled bike

even my buddies with a 250 kymco scooter has a temp guage....
I'm new to the versys.Only owned one for about 2 weeks now. It is the first liquid cooled bike I owned that did not have a temp gauge.How long does it take the bike to come up to temp before you start getting on it.I know alot of factors figure into that .Just wondering how you guys tell when it is warmed up.

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I'm new to the versys.Only owned one for about 2 weeks now. It is the first liquid cooled bike I owned that did not have a temp gauge.How long does it take the bike to come up to temp before you start getting on it.I know alot of factors figure into that .Just wondering how you guys tell when it is warmed up.

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When it slow idles, I start thinking it's time to leave soon.
thanks.How long do you wait before you start to get on it a little like 7-8000 rpm?
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You're ok to redline it after a couple laps. Just use your judgement and common sense... I'd still like to have a temperature gauge on mine. An oil temperature display in the cowling would be relatively easy to install.
The wax pellet type thermostat valve opens at 80.5-83.5C (177-182F). Full opening lift: 8 mm (0.31 in.) or more at 95C (203F). Cooling fan comes on at a coolant temperature of 91C (196F). Coolant temperature warning light is set to go on if coolant temperature reaches 239F (115C). The coolant temperature sensor is in the rear bottom of left cylinder.
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yes, as the other writer said, when cold, the idle is fast, and after about 60 secs, you can hear a sudden change in the idle speed which gets lower.

that is when i get on and ride easy for a few miles
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with a digital display, why didnt they put in a gear position display??????

Why would you need one when you already have enough "indicators?

* Speed

* Engine RPM

* Engine/Exhaust Sound

* Available Torque
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dont forget to warm your tyres up as well.

providing the temp alarm works then i guess theres no problem, buts thats the beauty of a gauge you can see its working and know its working, a confidence thing.

has anyone had any heating probs or had the temp alarm go off? 38 degrees c in canbera today.
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Temp gauge

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I like it. Degrees F would be better though.
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Those are pretty cool... I did wonder how I could tap into the ECU's coolant temperature sensor input (thermometric probe) to operate a temperature gauge or digital display. Such units exist for automotive applications that would probably be compatible with the temperature sensor signal.

http://pivotjp.com/product/flame-wtm-e.html

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I am waiting for this special pricing reply, a considerable amount of install information on this site; http://digilander.libero.it/JH61/Ver...wnldpdfENG.htm
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Those are pretty cool... I did wonder how I could tap into the ECU's coolant temperature sensor input (thermometric probe) to operate a temperature gauge or didgital display. Such units exist for automotive applications that would probably be compatible with the temperature sensor signal.

http://pivotjp.com/product/flame-wtm-e.html
The probe is an NTC. Its value decreases in logarithmic mode when the T increases. Therefore a signal conditioning (with high impedance) is necessary to obtain a linear V/T scale.
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Do you have a price on the KV-T2 water temperature display? Would it be possible to have a digital display instead of a 5 LED readout?
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Just got the email in today, not really sure it is worth the extra to have more idiot lights coming on sooner than the OEM warning lights.I think a small digital display and thermocouple might be cheaper, if that is what you need to ride the bike.

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- Price of Voltmeter Kit with all accessories for easy installation: 43 Euro
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