Yeah, the regulations that were out of date before they were published, how many decades ago? That contain enough vague references to be of little actual value? That have ridiculous requirements that actually make driving at night more dangerous for all motorists. Yes, those are the regulations to be spewing forth...
I wasn't aware that lumens had been added to the DOT or CMVSS regulations, not that I care to follow such things. Or was that statement an interpolation of other specifications like candle power or wattage?
For what it is worth, based on information provided by a lighting engineer in another forum, there are LED bulbs which meet all DOT requirements, except for one, power consumption. They don't consume enough power to meet the out of date spec. And they are a tested ~5000 lumens output per bulb...
Notice the Title, this discussion came up a long time ago on this forum.https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...14-post20.html
Original equiment is 1500 lumen 55 watt incandescent bulb rated 55 watts @ 12 volt, at 14.2VDC it is not 55 Watt!! ,( Many of us converted to Osram Super Bright Off-Road PX26D 65 Watt ( I still have some new ones and after Market available to sell ) No longer made, I have discussed this before and will only say that the 65 watt is 2100 lumens.
Several of us got concerned as to legal aspects,I have access to OPP officers ( Ontario Provincial Police), something that in my profession we get to work with , the question asked was about the offroad lamps being used on the highway, the answer from 3 officers was that provided the lights are aimed correctly , their concern is that using the offroad lamps gives you a better view of the road to see Deer or Moose, your safety is of greater importance than any laws,we were also told that unless you purposely fail to dim your lights in oncoming traffic or are purposely trying to blind someone, no need to worry about being pulled over. Responding to a motorcycle fatality because someone didn't see something , isn't something the OPP look forward to responding to. I have been running the Osram 65 watt in high beam since 2008, now in my 2015.
What you are hearing from Dave is accurate, it is a outdated law ,
(Euh, at the moment you sound like the guy I don't want to have a "discussion" with... lol... perhaps you ere referring to discussing with those making regulations...but if you just want to start a fight, go on advrider... I just want to say no to anyone who think they need more lighting. That's the end message.)
If you buy and use some ordinary sylverstar ultra or ultra 2, or any other brand about 1600 lumens, you will have plenty of white-enough light. Trust me on that. I've done many hours on unlit roads and it's enough. Of course a led equivalent would be welcomed if it lasts longer. But it may burn the shunt regulator, if I understand how the charging circuitry works from the other threads of this forums. Having wattage out the headlight is part of the bike electric design.
Any more lumens and that tells every one that one is hunting for more lighting because one might not understand that one is blinded by one's own light and/or one annoys every one coming the other way or the same way on on'e one way.
Oh well, anyhow, in the case here, I'm not surprised regulations don't change because physics don't change (Humans eyes). I'll give you the wattage glitch sure, but lumens, nah.
And yet you don't provide your own sources. I thinks exactly the same of your information.
All I had to do to know what it takes is use a regular h7 bulb at night and google up the lumen output of a halogen H7 bulb. Everybody is capable of judging by themselves instead of being misguided push to buy blinding bulbs.
The point is DO NOT BUY higher intensity bulbs and stick with the regular intensity (led or halogen) so they remain considerate towards other drivers.
It doesn't require science, nor a law, nor a to-the-very-last-minute up-to-date document...
In regards to what Dave is leaning to, typing misinformation= < than =0, your discussion about a shunt regulator, well read https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...hunt+regulator
You mention night driving and good visibility with 1600 lumen, possibly you have great night vision, I can say I am glad I have the Osram 65W in high beam plus the Denali D2 , saved my ass ( originally over 110 KM/HR, brought it down to almost a standstill, front/ rear braking and engine braking less than 7 seconds), 5 Deer on a side road, 15 feet to the right of the main road, picked up by my Denali + high beam, enough time to drop speed and plan for emergency braking.
I also stated that anyone with a 2015 650ABS , if you are converting to a LED headlight, do so only to reduce wattage, as the reflector is such that indeed you will blind someone using a LED conversion, the one I installed is in one of Dave's posts, which can be rotated, it can be aimed so that if you are delivering Pizza you will have no problem reading the house numbers, also don't be surprised if you see a 747 on final approach towards you, if it is farther down the road or increased road view
Denali High beam
Denali Low Beam
Denali high beam and low beam 3000 Lumen LED aircraft landing light--Reflector not suited unless a MK-1 or MK-2, both far superior to the MK-3 reflector