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USB power, voltage, temperature in one

I'm looking to fill one of the circular cutouts in the dash area of my 2016 Versys 650 with everything I want. I want to have battery voltage, a USB charging port, and an air temp indicator. I can find 2 of the 3 items in one but not everything in one. I might add the gear indicator later when I can stomach the price but I'd like to leave that side open for now.
I had air temperature on my old bike and I liked to see follow the trends as I rode. I'm definitely over thinking this but maybe there is a good solution someone has found already.
Maybe the best is to add a simple air temp gadget next to the usb/voltmeter.

I was considering this one with 2 USB ports and a voltmeter before thinking of the temperature.


I also saw one like this with voltmeter and temperature for a cigarette socket:

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My answer for the thermometer part of your quest was to get the Velcro in place unit from Formotion. It looks cool...but it would be cooler if it worked. I have been happy with the voltage gage & usb charging unit.
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I'm still debating but I think I might get usb/voltmeter like I the first picture and then a small digital waterproof and hardwired theremometer like this:
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https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Digital-...dp/B00D7A7CQ0/

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I'm still debating but I think I might get usb/voltmeter like I the first picture and then a small digital waterproof and hardwired theremometer like this:
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https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Digital-...dp/B00D7A7CQ0/
A similar option would be to stop by a pet shop & get a battery powered terrarium thermometer. It wouldn't need a hole cut in the dash and would be powered by a watch battery. It would also have a wired remote sensor that you could run to an area with clean air for an accurate reading.
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All the displays I was finding on amazon/ebay were basically pet store or lab equipment displays. might be good enough but I had a hard time finding one that was waterproof, hardwired, and reading in Fahrenheit .

I found this one from Blue Sea. I've used them for my wiring needs at work and personal projects and they make good quality parts.
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https://www.bluesea.com/products/174...rature_Monitor
Looks like it's brand new this month so might not be available for a few weeks. MSRP is $61 but other sites already list it at $45.
This will install easily in the 2nd hole in the dash and match the color of the gauge back light. Also waterproof.
I don't think I really need to the gear indicator anyways. This next to the USB/Voltmeter will probably be what I want.
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Will that voltmeter be accurate? I'm assuming there will be some degree of voltage drop in the circuit, but maybe it'll be accurate enough?

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Will that voltmeter be accurate? I'm assuming there will be some degree of voltage drop in the circuit, but maybe it'll be accurate enough?
I'll be using the existing wiring from the factory and the Kawasaki relay for the power source for the voltmeter. I'm assuming the power lead comes straight from the battery before the relay so the voltage drop should be negligible across the relay. Even if the cheap gauge is off by a few tenths of a volt, I'm still ok. It's mainly there to monitor battery health/performance and charging system performance so trends are probably good enough.
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My husband put the one in the first picture on his 2017 1000LT. It looks nice and he has no complaints!
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You can pick up the voltmeter/usb combinations off Wish.com for cheaper than ebay and amazon, which is a good thing since they tend to die easily. they all ship from china unless you want to pay $20+ for a US supplier of a $2 item. I've gone through 3 on my '08 Versys. My next one is going to have an on/off switch so I can turn it on /after/ the bike is running to protect it from the start-up voltage spike.

If you do get the voltmeter/usb combo, take the back off and pull the circuit board out, then coat the circuit board in silicon caulking to help absorb the vibrations of the bike. My first one the rf choke on the board broke off because of how fragile the wiring was.
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The Blue Sea temperature item is now showing not available until November on their website so I'll guess I'll have to wait a little bit longer.
Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the Kawasaki Relay to arrive which was ordered from Kawasaki parts house but I did receive the USB/voltmeter in the first picture.

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My answer for the thermometer part of your quest was to get the Velcro in place unit from Formotion. It looks cool...but it would be cooler if it worked. I have been happy with the voltage gage & usb charging unit.
Is your Formotion dead? Mine works very well attached to my handlebars -
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The only thing I want is a simple LED light that glows red when there's a homicidal cage driver in my vicinity.

It would be nice to have directional lights pointing out the direction of the cage driver's approach, but I'll settle for the simple LED first.
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Is your Formotion dead? Mine works very well attached to my handlebars -
90 deg shown.... 50 deg in garage
threw it in the freezer for half an hour & it went down to 60
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90 deg shown.... 50 deg in garage
threw it in the freezer for half an hour & it went down to 60
return it to Fomotion, they'll repair it. I do have a spare if you're in need however.
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I bought one of the temp gauges off eBay (just temp and plugs into a power outlet) and it doesn't work well in sunlight..........too dim. Looks good in the shop though. I gave it to my brother to use in his pick-up.
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return it to Fomotion, they'll repair it. I do have a spare if you're in need however.
I appreciate the offer but it's more of a "shiny" for me and I'll most likely mail it back to them when the snow removes any doubt about the conditions.
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I appreciate the offer but it's more of a "shiny" for me and I'll most likely mail it back to them when the snow removes any doubt about the conditions.
I'd mail it now and then they have all winter to fuss with it. (I'm a belt and suspenders kinda guy; do it now .vs. later)

On the other hand, they fixed/returned mine in about 10 days.
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I bought one of the temp gauges off eBay (just temp and plugs into a power outlet) and it doesn't work well in sunlight..........too dim. Looks good in the shop though. I gave it to my brother to use in his pick-up.
Very true, I installed the 12v adaptor and Kawasaki Gear Indicator and I bought a cheap amazon 12v plug in with RED display and usb port, and while it was accurate "I tested it with a good voltmeter" when you were riding in the sun it was mostly invisible while the Kawasaki Gear Indicator was bright enough to be easily readable. I took it out and use it in my Challenger now, so look for one with bright display, and if you find one let us know about it!

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after many many many months of delays, the Blue Sea air temp sensor was finally released. I installed this weekend and it looks pretty good. I used the Kawasaki relay and volt meter / usb charger from amazon.

Easy install and has a temp probe with about a 12 in lead from the gauge, but I think you could easily lengthen it. The back of the gauge has a 4 pin screw terminal connector. The probe is mounted in direct air flow just under the head light body work.

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My answer for the thermometer part of your quest was to get the Velcro in place unit from Formotion. It looks cool...but it would be cooler if it worked. I have been happy with the voltage gage & usb charging unit.
If your Formotion is behaving badly, contact them. They'll fix it for nada. Mine died, and they fixed and returned for 0$.
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