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which crash bars really protect the versys better?


the hb and the swm seem to be the choice..albeit the vib's on the swm.
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 12:27 AM
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Don't think there's really a definitive answer to your question. People have crashed with the various bars available (also Givi should be added to your list), but there really hasn't been testing of "what's best".

You can kind of tell by pictures how they might do, but aside from that reading crash reports is about the best we can do.
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i suppose something is better than nothing...perhaps this request is similar to "what's the best oil" and so forth.

like the hbs for the looks and the "no vibs", like the swm for past experience, the givi's never liked, and never liked them on other bikes either...however tunes change, yet they seem under covered
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Seriously there are numerous threads ont his subject if you search the forum....Some love HB some love SWM....I perfer the latter...

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HB are not available any more. The choices now are now SW-Motech and Givi. See TwistedThrottle.com or similar retailer.
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HB can still be found.

HB have 3 mounts. One mount to weak radiator that can bend easily in fall. Slightly smaller diameter that SW-Motech and if the bike is dripped it will rest on the crash bars.

SW-Motech are the most popular. largest diameter, and have three mounts. However when the bike is dropped the bars are so low that something else higher on the bike will likely hit the ground. These need to be used in conjunction with hand guards IMO.

Givi has two mounts and smaller diameter. Appear that the bike could rest on these if dropped without anything else hitting.


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HB can still be found.

HB have 3 mounts. One mount to weak radiator that can bend easily in fall. Slightly smaller diameter that SW-Motech and if the bike is dripped it will rest on the crash bars.

SW-Motech are the most popular. largest diameter, and have three mounts. However when the bike is dropped the bars are so low that something else higher on the bike will likely hit the ground. These need to be used in conjunction with hand guards IMO.

Givi has two mounts and smaller diameter. Appear that the bike could rest on these if dropped without anything else hitting.
Would be interested in knowing where you get the diameter information from? Have the Givi's myself and they are hugely thick.

Also, the Givis do mount in 3 places. The exact same 3 as the sw moto do.
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hb can still be found.

Hb have 3 mounts. One mount to weak radiator that can bend easily in fall.


wrong


It doesn't mount to the radiator. The two sides are attached to each other by a piece of flat bar at the radiator.


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Slammed into the side of a car and the H/B's came away scratched not bent....Last photo you can see where the right side mounts to the flat bar.


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Would be interested in knowing where you get the diameter information from? Have the Givi's myself and they are hugely thick.

Also, the Givis do mount in 3 places. The exact same 3 as the sw moto do.


That info is on one of the many crash bar threads. The H/B's are an Inch i know for sure.

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...HB have 3 mounts. One mount to weak radiator that can bend easily in fall. on these if dropped without anything else hitting.
NOT my experience - "evaluated" my H-Bs at about 20mph in a classic low-side in a hairpin. They got 'scratched', fixed with about 4" of electricians tape, while my handguards needed a little filing, then a piece of reflective tape. (Check the 2 pics.)
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HB are not available any more. The choices now are now SW-Motech and Givi. See TwistedThrottle.com or similar retailer.
I bought a set of the HB bars less than a month ago from here:
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Twisted throttle states that the SW Motech bars won't fit on California model Versys without modifying emissions pac. True or false?
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Here's the page where they say it: http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade...view/3855/788/
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I'm surprised no one has posted a canisterectomy howto.
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My SW's did their job in an extreme crash test (pictures posted in another thread). I had to replace the crash bar on one side but that was much better than the alternative of a written off bike.
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which crash bars really protect the versys better?


the hb and the swm seem to be the choice..albeit the vib's on the swm.
2011 Versys with SW Motech crashbars dragged under a truck for 300M. Pictures included.

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so, which came first in your case, the HB or SW? if HB, i'll know you came to your senses, but if SW, then i'll know why the BC LDB is the largest single purchaser of distilled spirits in the world.

the HB won't get the radiator at 20mph, but scorch the earth's surface at 40kph, the radiator is toast, and you're walkin'.
My '08 has H-Bs which survived a 15 to 20 mph low-side, and when I got the '09 I couldn't find anyone that had the H-Bs, so I ordered the S-Ws. They've only had to survive 'falling over' a few times in the garage... (ONE of which pretty much "scalped" me!).

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