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I'm having the same problem everyone else seems to have had with the SW Motech crash bars. The left U bolt just won't fit up. I've tried the solutions on the board, but to no avail. I'm going to stop for the night and try again in the morning. I'll call Twisted Throttle for advice and if they can't help me out, I guess they will go back. It's too bad, I like the bars.

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Who's car is that, and how did the collision occur?
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Who's car is that, and how did the collision occur?

Thats from my crash on 11/27/2011. Coming down PCH the guy in the BMW decided he wanted to do a U-Turn while i was coming along side of him. Didn't hit straight on i hit the brakes and we slammed into the side of each other most of the impact right on the H/B's & Highwaypeg. The H/B's got scratched when the bike hit the ground. http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ad.php?t=17711

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It seems we don't really have an "definitive" answer on which are best?

There's the Givi's the H/B's and the Sw Mototech.

But without a crash test of ea one, using similar circumstances, everyone is kind of "guessing"?

These don't look like they'll work... these won't protect the radiator... these protect the top but not the bottom... etc etc etc.

weljo has a pretty clear indication on how the H/B's handle. Does anyone else have any "specific" info vs guessing?

Just wondering as I like the looks of the Givi's the best, and the attachments, but hoping to not find out they "kind of" work... if ya know what I mean...

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I'm having the same problem everyone else seems to have had with the SW Motech crash bars. The left U bolt just won't fit up. I've tried the solutions on the board, but to no avail. I'm going to stop for the night and try again in the morning. I'll call Twisted Throttle for advice and if they can't help me out, I guess they will go back. It's too bad, I like the bars.
I've been in contact with Twisted Throttle over the past week or so with this problem. They didn't really have any solutions, but forwarded the complaint on to the manufacturer. I finally got my bars on 'good enough' for now. I put enough upward pressure on the bar to get the bottom bolt through and the nut seated on it. I tinkered around with tightening and loosening both nuts to get rid of the added engine vibes, and wound up with the bottom nut backed out to the point where the bolt end is just barely back inside the nut. I've got quite a bit of blue loctite on there, and i'll be watching it closely over the next few weeks to make sure it holds. If you can at least get the bottom nut threaded on that bolt, you should be good to go.
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I've been in contact with Twisted Throttle over the past week or so with this problem. They didn't really have any solutions, but forwarded the complaint on to the manufacturer. I finally got my bars on 'good enough' for now. I put enough upward pressure on the bar to get the bottom bolt through and the nut seated on it. I tinkered around with tightening and loosening both nuts to get rid of the added engine vibes, and wound up with the bottom nut backed out to the point where the bolt end is just barely back inside the nut. I've got quite a bit of blue loctite on there, and i'll be watching it closely over the next few weeks to make sure it holds. If you can at least get the bottom nut threaded on that bolt, you should be good to go.
I just sent your pictures to Twisted Throttle also. I've been in contact with Jennifer and she requested pictures, but I had already removed the bars to pack them for shipping. I've already cross threaded one of the u bolts, so I'd need another one before I could do anything anyway. I hope you don't mind me using a link to your thread. Maybe something will come of this. I'm going to go and find another u bolt locally while I'm waiting.

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...weljo has a pretty clear indication on how the H/B's handle. Does anyone else have any "specific" info vs guessing?...
Yes - ME. I low-sided going up 366 up Mt. Graham (just west of Safford) a year ago at about 15 to 20 mph in a left-switchback. My '08 has H-B crash bars and Zeta handguards, and the crash scratched both, bent my shifter (bent back, later again with heat) and added some "wear marks" to the mesh gear I was wearing (also broke one of my ribs...). Repaired the marks on the H-Bs with electricians tape, and the Zetas with a file and some reflecting tape. The rib? THAT took a few weeks! (Pictures of the repaired parts are below, sorry I did NOT take pics before fixed.)

I have S-Ws on my '09, so here are my observations:
H-Bs - when installing them, the nuts that are 'captured' in the front of the crankcase 'turned'. They are reasonably tight, but this wasn't good.
S-Ws - when installing them I had some of the issues with the U-bolts as others recount, and, once installed they make it VERY hard to access the lower bolt on the countershaft-sprocket-cover. There seems to have been an issue with one of the plastic side panels down low, but the '09s about 1700 miles north of me right now, and the '09 has MUCH MORE mirror vibes than does the '08. Is that the S-Ws fault...?
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Hey thnx for that fasteddie. I really couldn't tell from all the stuff I read. While the H/B's look to be up to the job, decided to go with the givi's. They're on order.

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I have the SW crash bars on my 08 V. No trouble installing. Just have to tighten everything down equally.
The SW bars do make getting to the counter sprocket more difficult but so far I haven't had to. Fabbing a special wrench may be in order.
Did a really slow layover in the garage and the SW bars took all the contact sparing the paint job. They paid for themselves right there. Glad you other guys walked away from your untimely "get-offs".
Comparing the 2008 OEM parts list with the 2011 parts list the only difference I could find when it came to external vibration dampening are two rubber "donuts" at the upper rear engine/frame mounting points.

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I spoke to Twisted Throttle today. A service manager is supposed to get back to me. I told them I'd sit on them for a few days and see what they can resolve. I do have them repacked and ready to return. If that's how it goes, I'll probably go for the Givi's.

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S-Ws - and the '09 has MUCH MORE mirror vibes than does the '08. Is that the S-Ws fault...?
The SW's certainly add a bunch of engine vibes if you tighten the u-bolts too much. If you back them way off to the point where you can just wiggle the bolt side to side by hand, the vibes pretty much go away. I can tell my right bar is still a bit too tight because my right peg and knee get tingly at certain revs, but the left side no longer does. One I got them installed and settled in, I practically forgot they're even there.
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Just got off the phone with TT. They won't take the bars back until I send them pictures of the problem on MY bike. Seems redundant, but if that's what it takes, I guess I have to reinstall them.

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Great customer service there. Known problem but you have to jump through hoops.
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Great customer service there. Known problem but you have to jump through hoops.
They say they've installed 4 or 5 sets with no problems. I told them practically everyone on here has had a problem. I'll re install them tonight and take their pictures.

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Great customer service there. Known problem but you have to jump through hoops.
Yep i had trouble with them on an order when i first got my versys. Haven't ordered through them since. That turned out to be a costly mistake for them. But then hey i'am only one customer.

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They told me today that they have to forward the photos to Germany to see what SW wants to do. I told them, if they can't fix the problem, they are getting their bars back and I'm getting my money back.

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Can you post the pics? I've been trying to decide between buying and building. Not sure I have seen what the issue is on these bars but I keep hearing about it.
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Pics in first post of my thread:

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ad.php?t=17957

The issue is that the top tube on the left bar sits about a 1cm too low, so the u-bolt won't line up right and not enough threads poke through the hole to make it work. Several of us have managed to get the bars on with a bit of force, but it's not how it should be. The right bars line up perfectly, so I'm pretty convinced either the left bars are defective, or there's some variation in the frames between bikes (unlikely).
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Should be getting the Givi's in a few days. Will let people know how they install / appear to be up to the job.

It's sad to hear people having to fight with SW. sure hope mine install easily...
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