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Swingarm 'Spools'? Why?

Saw almost everyone on our group ride the other day had these...

What's the deal? My paddock stand works on the flat underside of the swingarm fine as is.

I see there's some threads about where to get good/cheap ones, but what else do they do?

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They might also offer the swingarm and axle some protection if the bike goes down.

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What's the deal? My paddock stand works on the flat underside of the swingarm fine as is.
If you have a paddock stand with generic pads to work on the underside of the swingarm, that's a relatively risky way to lift a bike. It's what we all did before bikes started coming with mounts and the stand companies started producing stands for the general public that engaged them.

The pads can slip, one side or the other, when you're working on the bike and it can hit the ground. Thankfully it never happened to me but I've seen it years ago, even at dealers who used those stands daily.

A spool stand much more positively keeps the bike stable, the stand can't really move fore/aft once it's in place....not without something very bad and serious happening.



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I have the Spools on the rear of the bike.
But what about the front?
Is there a similar stand for lifting the front?
Thanks for the pic with dimentions! Now I can fab one up, of my own!
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I have the Spools on the rear of the bike.
But what about the front?
Is there a similar stand for lifting the front?
Thanks for the pic with dimentions! Now I can fab one up, of my own!
I bought front and rear stands. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the front stand to work. The brake housing just rolls off the pads when I try to put it up. I use the rear stand all the time.

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The front stand lifts/holds the bike up from underneath the forks.

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I like the spools. Much easier to use with the forks than the pads shown above. I badly scratched my TDM850 swingarm trying to use a paddock stand by myself with those damn pads. Lifting the Versys with the spools fitted by myself is real easy.




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They might also offer the swingarm and axle some protection if the bike goes down.
Someone in the German Versys broke his off when he went down. The swingarm is made from aluminimum, thus, not easily weldable. Thus, he now needs a new
swingarm, and these are pricey.

However, I don't have a better suggestion considering main stands.

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I installed Harbor Freight spools on my V. They work great with the aluminum HF stand.

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I have the Spools on the rear of the bike.
But what about the front?
Is there a similar stand for lifting the front?
I use this for the front!


I use this on the rear. It is a forward handed rear stand.

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As mentioned, the spools are a lot more stable and easier to use.

The front fork lift stands go under the bottom of the fork legs. There should be a note on the stand telling you not to use the fork stand without a rearstand. That thar is not one of those 'don't remove the tag from this mattress' notes - it's quite easy for the bike to fall over on only the fork stand.

There's also a front stand that lifts the bike by a pin in the underside of the triple tree. This is the stand to use when removing the forks.
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There's also a front stand that lifts the bike by a pin in the underside of the triple tree. This is the stand to use when removing the forks.
The triple tree stand works fine for changing tires as well. I am glad that it is the first stand for the front that I ever even tried (since I needed to take both wheels to a friends to change tires). The T-Rex stand works a treat!
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As mentioned, the spools are a lot more stable and easier to use.

The front fork lift stands go under the bottom of the fork legs. There should be a note on the stand telling you not to use the fork stand without a rearstand. That thar is not one of those 'don't remove the tag from this mattress' notes - it's quite easy for the bike to fall over on only the fork stand.

There's also a front stand that lifts the bike by a pin in the underside of the triple tree. This is the stand to use when removing the forks.
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If you're using a front stand, ALWAYS have the bike on the rear stand before raising the front. Lockhart-Phillips makes a really good steering stem stand at a decent price. The hole size in the stem is 27mm.

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If you're using a front stand, ALWAYS have the bike on the rear stand before raising the front. .


Why do you say this? I have used my front stand without having the back stand on. It is a little more tricky to get the bike on but not too bad. The instruction don't mention to always have the back raised before you raise the front.

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Why do you say this? I have used my front stand without having the back stand on. It is a little more tricky to get the bike on but not too bad. The instruction don't mention to always have the back raised before you raise the front.
It's a lot more stable. Especially with the stand that engages the lower triple. You have to get the bike vertical before the lift pin will even go into the bottom of the fork stem. Also, if the bike moves forward at all, the stand will lower itself and you'll have a tipover.

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Someone in the German Versys broke his off when he went down. The swingarm is made from aluminimum, thus, not easily weldable. Thus, he now needs a new
swingarm, and these are pricey.

However, I don't have a better suggestion considering main stands.

Surely someone in Germany can tig weld repair this without having to buy a new swingarm. I use a rear stand without spools, or rather I used to. Now I have a dallasdon centerstand. The non spool rear stand was a bit tricky, but I never dropped it.
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We have mandatory technical inspections every 2 years over here, and they will have your vehicle confiscated when they find out welding work on the frame, swingarm, or fork.

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If you have the SW skid plate you can use a car jack underneath it to get the front wheel off the ground. It's totally stable when the swingarm stand is also used.
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